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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:28 PM Original message |
If you flip over the rock of American foreign policy of the past century, this is what crawls out… |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Excerpt from the New Edition: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Something like 20 new bases in Iraq and a Taj Mahal of a US Embassy . . .!!! |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Angola |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
81. One of the first of our wars I heard of that used US mercenaries |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Brazil 1961-1964 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Cambodia 1955-1973 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Chile 1964-1973 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Congo 1960-1964 |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. Wait a goddamn minute... |
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scubadude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. For the non believers, how about a link to some absolute undeniable proof! |
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scubadude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. And for more chilling info read the oral histories, here's one of them. |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Hey! if you don't like to read and can't handle such harsh reality you can always |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
94. Free viewing of Stealing a Nation at this link: |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-28-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Posting for later reading |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Good question: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. how can something that murders to survive be considered "a good idea- the best so far"... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. My favorite, and most reviled quote, because it's true: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Yes . .. and we need to be reminded of Gorin's words frequently . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Apologies . . . that 's Goring, of course . . too late to edit. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. . . |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
107. Hate to point this out, but this is what Reverend Wright was |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
11. Late night K&R - explains so much |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. Iran 1953 |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
13. the myth that america as a benevolent force interested in spreading democracy is one that only plays |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. Kicked and Recommended. This book plus Chomsky and Klein |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
18. K & R |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
20. Recommend. This former pawn in the game commends you for highlighting these atrocities. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
21. This is why I bristle when someone talks of military service as |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Wise words . . . unfortunately, youth who sign up rarely hear anything like that -- !!! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
23. K & R w/ n/t:: for what is there to say? |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
24. This is exactly why Eisenhower warned us about the |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. He was a fine one to talk... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. Eisenhower's efforts for peace were undermined by CIA/intelligence . . . |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Some chief executive... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. True . . . he could have ended up like JFK . . . assassinated . . . |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. No he knew how the system worked |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. We can change without removing the money... |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Very well said...and I agree completely |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. American exceptionalism at its finest |
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ExPatLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. Excellent stuff |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
28. The Nazis were evacuated with US cover to Latin America:Now its the 4th Reich |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
29. Cuba 1959 to 1980s |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
30. Excellent thread thirdworldtraveler.com is one of the best sites on the web K & R nt |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
31. Dominican Republic 1960-1966 |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
32. Great summary of a lot of things the American people need to learn more about |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. Didn't Kissinger win the Nobel Peace Prize? |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. double post |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. M$M's "version" of Iraqi body count is "tens of thousands." Fuckin evil liars. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. East Timor 1975 |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. This rarely comes up when people praise the Carter admin |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. Where?...Huh? |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Amy Goodman produced a documentary on this after witnessing the Santa Cruz massacre |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
36. How do they get away with it? |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. But this has been going on for more than a century |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
38. El Salvador 1980-1994 |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. Where's Cheney's Picture? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
41. K&R. nt |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
42. never forget |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
43. Fantastic Post . . . mainly what crawls out is our CIA/Military fascism . . . |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
47. You forgot raping children, illegal arms sales and mass graves. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. You mean like Plan Colombia, 1999-Present day? Pushed by Clinton, Biden & Neocons? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
48. U.S. imperialism is older than that. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. As empires go, we had a short but very bloody career. |
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troubledamerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
51. But... But... But Communism was "expansionist"... But... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hey now, come on we needed an enemy right after WWII and so |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
54. It goes like this.... |
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Papa Boule (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. The creepy summary point, IMO |
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JoseGaspar (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. America is exceptional, don't you know? |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. Third World Traveler is an excellent site. |
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TatonkaJames (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. Looks like a good read |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Yup... it is hard to call any of these book "good", maybe "important" fits better? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R!!! (nt) |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
74. Or, to capture it in a 2 minute video: |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
75. k & r !!! n/t |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
76. " by virtue of our superiority of race..." |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
77. K&R.... |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. I've always said that our CIA made the KGB look like a bunch of Boy Scouts... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. By you, you mean Harry S.Truman |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Hmm.... Nazis were recruited into the new CIA after WW II. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. That's an interesting question as to what Truman may have known . . . |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. IMO, that President Truman probably knew of the operation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Probably true, but I haven't seen any discussion of it so far ... |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Soviet documents obtained after the cold war |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Additionally, I found out recently that the CIA was contributing to the campaigns of right-wing . . |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
82. Greece 1964-1974 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
83. Grenada 1979-1984 |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. But we had to rescue those students |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. Kicking, too late to rec. Thanks for posting this. n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
89. Good subject, but the price and shipping? C'mon... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well worth kicking that rock over... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
95. Guatemala 1953-1954 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
96. Guatemala 1962 to 1980s |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
97. Haiti 1986-1994 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
98. Indonesia 1957-1958 |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-02-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
99. Iraq, 1960s - 2000s. (Kick, too late for recommend.) |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-02-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
100. Indonesia 1965 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-04-09 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
101. Iran 1953 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-06-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
102. Laos 1957-1973 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-07-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
103. Nicaragua 1981-1990 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
104. Uruguay 1964-1970 |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
105. Hawaii - 1887 |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
106. Phillipines - 1899 |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-09-09 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
108. Zaire 1975-1978 |
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HOLOS (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-11-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
109. BIG BROTHER IS A MASS MURDERING MONSTER |
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