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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:42 PM
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Honduras, Zelaya and a chance for Obama to reveal his true colors.


Coup leader is a graduate of School of the Americas,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5947188

The crisis in Honduras began when the military refused to distribute ballot boxes for the opinion poll in a new Constitution. President Zelaya fired the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Romeo Orlando Vasquez Velasquez, who refused to step down. The heads of all branches of the Honduran armed forces quit in solidarity with Vasquez. Vasquez, however, refused to step down, bolstered by support in Congress and a Supreme Court ruling that reinstated him. Vasquez remains in control of the armed forces.

Vasquez, along with other military leaders, graduated from the United States' infamous School of the Americas (SOA). According to a School of the Americas Watch database compiled from information obtained from the US government, Vasquez studied in the SOA at least twice: once in 1976 and again in 1984. .................


School of the Americas Watch points out that this is not the first time the SOA has been involved in Latin American coups. "In April 2002, the democratically elected Chavez government of Venezuela was briefly overthrown, and the School of the Americas-trained Efrain Vasquez Velasco, ex-army commander, and Gen. Ramirez Poveda, were key players in the coup attempt."

According to School of the Americas Watch, "Over its 58 years, the SOA has trained over 60,000 Latin American soldiers in counter-insurgency techniques, sniper skills, commando and psychological warfare, military intelligence and interrogation tactics. Colombia, with over 10,000 troops trained at the school, is the SOA's largest customer. Colombia currently has the worst human rights record in Latin America.".....






Obama says he recognizes Zelaya as the president:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3943244.

"We recognize Zelaya as the duly elected and constitutional president of Honduras. We see no other," the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told reporters in a conference call organized by the U.S. State Department.


and its been announced that Obama tried to stop coup...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5950888

The Obama administration and members of the Organization of American States had worked for weeks to try to avert any moves to overthrow President Zelaya, said senior U.S. officials. Washington's ambassador to Honduras, Hugo Llorens, sought to facilitate a dialogue between the president's office, the Honduran parliament and the military.




Maybe this operation was in the works before Obama took office and he could not control it. Does this mean Obama is not in control of the School of the Americas and by way of parenthesis our foreign policy???? If he is in control then a big first step toward putting an end to business as usual would be to shut the SOA the fuck down, if Obama is not in control of the SOA then he isn't in control of our foreign policy. The SOA is, by any reasonable definition a terrorist training camp.

His action in this regard would reveal Obama's true colors.

I believe that, at best, there are two seperate intelligence networks in the US. The Bush fascists and the cowboys are in one and OBama in another. At worst Obama is just toying with our perceptions in an attempt to confuse the "attentive public" while doing business as usual. If he is trying to confuse then he's doing a good job:


Zelaya thinks "US is against the coup".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=405&topic_id=16691&mesg_id=16691

I guess that depends on what he means by "US".



All this being said one has to believe that Obama could substantively go against the fascists and survive. Look what they did to the Kennedy's.

More likely, IMO, these double messages are meant to simply confuse. Great Psyops.


Again: If Obama really wants to change the way the US does business he could begin by shutting down the SOA.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:34 PM
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1. Is there any evidence the SOA or any US agency had anything to do with this takeover?
Just because he attended SOA doesn't mean they are behind the coup.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 04:35 PM
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2. You didn't even read the post hugo.
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