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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:07 PM
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Since Franken is finally seated there's absolutely no reason why...
public option cannot be approved, RIGHT?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:08 PM
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1. right, since Al Franken is the keeper of the magic wand.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 03:08 PM by KittyWampus
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:08 PM
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2. Are all the dems on board and are we left only one vote away?
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 03:09 PM by stray cat
if any of that were true I guess the answer would be yes - but I don't think any of that is true.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:08 PM
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3. Too many lobbyists against it.
-- Sen. Bernie Sanders.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:09 PM
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4. Answer: Lieberman, Nelson, Specter.
Vipers. Wretched vipers.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:14 PM
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11. Actually, not Specter.
He's stated already he's for the public option.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:09 PM
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5. Franken's seating, unfortunately guarantees nothing
Of course, it's one more vote for it, which is helpful, but by no means does his seating make it certain.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:09 PM
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6. You beat me to this question! n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:10 PM
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7. The hold up isn't Republicans, it's corporate Dems.
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 03:12 PM by redqueen
Blue Dogs.

So, in a word - no.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:11 PM
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8. Why set sights so low? Single-payer
The problem is that its the Democrats blocking it, not the powerless whining party
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:11 PM
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9. Bill Nelson or Joe Lieberman or any one of them could prevent a filibuster proof majority.
They would simply have to switch their votes against whatever it is the Democrats are trying to pass at a particular time.

Then, the Republicans would be free to filibuster the bill to death.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:21 PM
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19. Let them filibuster. It's been done before and maybe it's time to call them
on it and let them do it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:13 PM
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10. I have no doubt that Al will be another vote for it, but there are obstructionist Dems still.
He can't make them go away.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:14 PM
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12. Nah. Still a battle in Senate.
Not sure which committees he's going to get a seat on, though. He'd be a good voice if there's an opening on Health.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:20 PM
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17. If that's the case, they probably will banish him to some committee on
freedom for widgets, not where he might do some good.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:15 PM
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13. Pawlenty has NOT certified the election (and my yet decline to do so).
Franken has not been seated yet.

People are getting WAY ahead of themsleves here.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:17 PM
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15. If Pawlenty disregards Coleman's concession...
...it's political suicide. No Presidential run in 2012.

In other words...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:18 PM
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16. Also, it would set a very bad precedent for future elections. Both the
President and Congress need to lean on him to do it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:25 PM
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20. He will be a HERO to the RW if he disregards Coleman's concession
and ignores the court.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:17 PM
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14. The corporate whore, DLC, Blue Dogs are not on board, however,
we have enough votes in the House and we may need only fifty in the Senate if Reid makes the rule or that's how I understand it. Let's hope this is true. In this case, why settle for public option if we can get HR 676 or an improved Medicare extended to every one?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:21 PM
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18. All it does is make their "we dont have votes" excuse weaker and more transparent.
More and more people not accepting that excuse and demanding: "Well get off your ass and GET the votes then!!!"
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 03:26 PM
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21. Wrong
Not all Democratic Senators support a public option.

And there is much disagreement among those Senators who do support a public option as to exactly what form this public option would take.
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