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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:48 PM
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Penn. State Senator Refuses To Apologize For His Remarks About Gays: ‘We’re Allowing Them To Exist'
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 04:50 PM by marmar
from ThinkProgress:



Pennsylvania State Senator Refuses To Apologize For His Remarks About Gays: ‘We’re Allowing Them To Exist’

During a June 19 radio debate, Pennsylvania State Sen. John Eichelberger (R) repeatedly asserted that same-sex marriage is wrong, “dysfunctional,” and would lead to “polygamy, marrying younger people.” (Eichelberger) is “sponsoring a Constitutional amendment to redefine marriage as between a man and a woman.”) But perhaps his most shocking comments came when fellow lawmaker Sen. Daylin Leach (D) asked him how gay men and women should be treated:

Leach: Should our only policy towards (same-sex) couples be one of punishment, to somehow prove that they’ve done something wrong?

Eichelberger: They’re not being punished. We’re allowing them to exist, and do what every American can do. We’re just not rewarding them with any special designation.


Listen to excerpts of the debate here: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/30/gays-exist/


LGBT activists were incensed by Eichelberger’s comments, calling on him to apologize for his “insensitive remarks.” Yesterday, gay and straight protesters briefly met with Eichelberger, “after (he tried) ducking them twice.” They presented him with 5,000 signed petitions asking him to apologize. Eichelberger refused to do so:

EICHELBERGER: You know, the public process is very important in this country. That’s what my bill does. It allows the public to make a decision, which I think is a healthy thing. So I appreciate your support of at least that concept.

SPEAKER: So are you going to apologize to the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender people in Pennsylvania — and all the people in Pennsylvania for those comments about allowing to exist and calling them dysfunctional.

EICHELBERGER: No, I think you know my answer to that. Thank you very much.


Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/30/gays-exist/


John Morgan of the Pennsylvania Progressive, who was at the Eichelberger confrontation and captured the exchange on video, said, “The fact he knew we would be at his office at noon and chose not to be there showed his cowardice. It was not until we waited an hour and returned that his receptionist allowed us a few minutes with the Senator in an additional hour.”

Eichelberger has said that his June 19 remarks have been taken out of context. ThinkProgress contacted the senator’s office, asking for clarification and whether he would be issuing an apology. Chief of staff Jason High simply said that the Eichelberger “has already clarified his statement in multiple media outlets.” He pointed us to a June 27 Altoona Mirror story. However, while Eichelberger repeatedly says that his comments are being misinterpreted, nowhere in that article does he shed any more light onto what he actually meant:

He (Eichelberger) said members of Keystone Progress have taken what he said out of context. He said Thursday afternoon he has no intention of taking back or apologizing for anything he stated during the discussion with Leach about heterosexual marriage, bigamy, polygamy, other different forms of marriage and procreation. … Eichelberger said Morrill and his group are purposefully misinterpreting his comment.


Pittsburgh Lesbian Correspondents, an LGBT blog in Pennsylvania, writes, “It is one thing to disapprove of my identity or believe it is a choice, but quite another thing to suggest that I am permitted to exist in spite of my identity. Should I be grateful to Senator Eichelberger for not condoning someone taking away my existence?


http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/30/gays-exist/



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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:50 PM
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1. recommend
'Pittsburgh Lesbian Correspondents, an LGBT blog in Pennsylvania, writes, “It is one thing to disapprove of my identity or believe it is a choice, but quite another thing to suggest that I am permitted to exist in spite of my identity. Should I be grateful to Senator Eichelberger for not condoning someone taking away my existence?'

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:51 PM
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2. All of you would be honestly shocked at how many think gays "should not exist"
As in, fire up the ovens, lets go concentration camping...

Thank Christianity, and our unhealthy obsession with it for that one...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:56 PM
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6. yeah, because christianity is the ONLY religion or group that is bigoted against gays.
and I'm a christian and completely supportive of GLBT rights. So I guess I don't fit in your broad brush, there.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:57 PM
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7. Christianity is big in the US
That's the country we're talking about, right?

If I were talking about Iranian Homophobia, I would point to Islam. But I am not.

Get off yer high horse, dude - its unbecoming of you
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:40 PM
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12. I fail to see anything wrong with my post
:shrug:

you're the one who is unbecoming
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:59 PM
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15. Do you put money in the colection plate or otherwise donate money to your church? n/t
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:57 PM
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17. I fail to see your point?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-02-09 11:10 AM
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18. I belong to the UCC church, you know, the one that had commercials accepting
of GLBT people, that many networks wouldn't run?

so, in light of that, what is your point?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 04:47 PM
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16. it pisses me off too, lerkfish, that people put that on all of us. since
branding all of a group for the actions of the asshole chorus section then let's see how far that can go:

Sanford is an asshole politician so all politicians are assholes including Obama

Since Joe the Plumber is an asshole all men are assholes.

nice, isn't it? Nothing like lumping everyone together because of the actions of a few.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:52 PM
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3. Will the people of PA please get rid of this monster?
:(
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:52 PM
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4. K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:53 PM
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5. My. my, my. "allowing them to exist" allowing...

allowing

scum-bucket
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:57 PM
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8. Who's the "we" he's referring to?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:54 PM
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14. him and his fellow bigots
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 04:58 PM
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9. So many things I WILL NOT say...but I am thinking them.
:nuke: :grr: :grr: :banghead: :banghead:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:00 PM
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10. Eichelberger has said that his June 19 remarks have been taken out of context
:eyes: sure :eyes:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:12 PM
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11. burris said something equally offensive......
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 11:49 PM
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13. Eugenicists
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 11:49 PM by undergroundpanther
MUST be removed from ANY place of power in ANY place in our society.

Because this fucker Eichelberger,is allowed a cushy job,because some bigots or people who did not know he was such an asshole voted for him he's there.. So now that we know what his hateful assumptions are about who lives by "Eichelberger's grace"..Let that narcissistic waste of skin be removed from office and shamed into faceless oblivion. Too many toxic personalities are put into power we need to recognize this,see it for the danger it is and remove every last one of the pigs from places of power if we want a sane society.
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