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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:14 PM
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McCain - Traitor???
Although I've been a DU member for some time, I think this is only the second time I've originated a thread. I hope it gets some response as I'm serious about bringing this topic to the attentions of the media.

What I'd like to hear/see is someone asking McCain the following question: Senator McCain, you stated repeatedly during your run for the office of president, that IF ELECTED - you'd advise the military how to find and capture Bin Laden. Since you weren't ultimately e;ected sir - are you still holding this information of extreme national security significance to yourself - or have you shared it with military chiefs who've already got Bin Laden cornered thanks to your secret plan?

I've written to several media outlets that we watch on a regular basis and we've never gotten so much as an acknowledgement of receipt.

McCain made no bones about HIS ability (as Commander-in-Chief) to capture the hero of terrorists everywhere. I think he ought to explain either WHY he'd hold out on sharing OR WHY his info (assuming he has shared it with the military) hasn't produced the results he PROMISED!
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:15 PM
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1. K and R
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:18 PM
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2. okay, I admit it..I r'd and k'd..in that order, I know it is against all the norms
but hey...I am a Democrat, and YOU have posed a very interesting question!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:19 PM
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3. Someone needs to call him out on this
I remember him saying "I know how to get bin Laden" more than once.

McCain is out there complaining about Obama but doesn't seem to be offering any solutions. If he knows how to get bin Laden he should get off his lazy ass and tell our military so we can get this over with and get out of there.

I suspect he was just talking out of his ass, though, and doesn't know how to get bin Laden any more than Sarah Baraquiter does. He does need to be pushed to admitting this.
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:20 PM
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4. McCain - learn about the man
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:25 PM
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5. k&r
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:26 PM
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6. Extortion attempt: "Elect me... or else."
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:26 PM
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7. He also said he knew how to win wars - is he sharing his secrets
with the President and Gates?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:39 PM
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8. Well, he did spend a lot of time with the North Vietnamese...
So maybe he picked up a tip or two on how to do that.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:50 PM
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9. Yea and Obama said he'd pull combat troops out of Iraq in 16 months.
Is he a traitor too?
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:49 PM
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12. It's still quite a ways to 16 months.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:53 PM
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10. i never took his comment as indicating that he had any pertinent INFORMATION
the withholding of which would certainly constitute aid and comfort to the enemy.

instead, i took his comment as meaning he thought he knew what ACTIONS to take as president in order to effect a capture, namely, calling in the joint chiefs of staff and stomping up and down and screaming his beet red face off until they delivered bin laden's head on a stake.

it was content-free chest-thumping, nothing more.


ok, maybe he had some more specific ideas of what strategy the military should use, better known in republican circles as "second-guessing the military". but in any event, i saw no reason to think he had any actionable intelligence.

all presidential candidates make this sort of promise all the time, trying to predict the future and just hoping it comes true, e.g., suggesting that the economy will rebound or that we'll find wmds, or that we're all safe, or that my plan will help create this many jobs, and so on. there may be more or less reasoning behind it, but there's often a large element of wishful thinking..
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:53 PM
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13. I'm sorry, but....
I remember it differently. I remember him addressing a town hall style debate where he looked at the audience and told them that if HE was elected, we'd have Bin Laden in short order because HE KNEW how to make that happen.

Empty chest-thumping or not, someone needs to ask him, point blank, if he's shared this with the current administration. Since the Right is SO GOOD at parsing Obama's words, where's the "accountability" for the Right???
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 04:24 PM
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15. by all means, it was a silly statement on his part, let's milk it
i certainly think we can score a few political points by pressing this theme, so don't let me stop you pushing it. but i don't think the story's got real legs. it's but it's good for a few news cycles so why not?
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 06:38 PM
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17. Well, I wasn't tryin' to be supremely righteous
about the matter, But with every Right-Wing Mouth dissecting each and every word that left Obama's lips last year - why not pick what has to be ridiculous carrot-on-shtick BS by Obama's contender?

More to the point, my one little voice can't seem to sway the inspect-o-meter to McCain's BS promise. I was looking for tips on how to get some media interest.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 07:20 PM
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20. can't help ya there
my threads don't get any du interest, and i'm preaching to the choir.
if i rarely get more than a few rec's here, who am i to give advice on getting through to the media??
:hi:
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walkaway Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 02:57 PM
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11. This is a man who volunteered to drop bombs on babies...
and never had a moment of regret. He tried to make a moron in a tight skirt the Vice President of the United States. He's a liar, a braggart, and a tiny little man who wants to go to war over any perceived insult.

As happy as I was that President Obama won the election...I was even happier that John McCain will never be the President of the United States.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 06:58 PM
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18. Remember it was President Lyndon Johnson
that ordered those babies be bombed. If Johnson had not ordered the bombing of Vietnam, McCain would not have had anyone to drop bombs on.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 12:33 PM
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25. Yes, every person who went to Vietnam was in it for the baby killing.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:27 PM
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28. Well, since McCain was an officer and pilot, one can only assume that he felt...
that bringing death from above was a good career path.
That cocksucker wasn't conscripted.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 03:56 PM
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14. McCain - Liar.
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 03:57 PM by annabanana
It was a self serving lie that he trotted out for the election. These guys are all "the end justifies the means" creeps.. so lying is considered legit...
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 06:20 PM
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16. Kinda hard to capture someone who died years earlier.
Heck just finding where they buried his body would be a chore.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 07:03 PM
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19. I think McCain and Palin are both traitors for insuating Obama is a terrorist.
And trying to incite violence against him as a Presidential candidate.

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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:14 PM
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21. McCain is sending Palin on a secret OBL capture mission! This explains her resignation. n/t
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:49 PM
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22. I'm not really inclined to put McCain in charge of the military

He does enough damage in the Senate.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 10:51 PM
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23. Traitor, no. Fucking liar, yes
He was lying his fucking ass off when he claimed that as president, he'd advise the military on how to find and capture Bin Laden. It was nothing more than campaign fluff, and the American people saw him for what he was - another rethug liar.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 12:30 PM
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24. OK, maybe "traitor" was a bit too much, but
liar isn't enough either. If he's holding back on info that would expedite the capture of Bin Laden (and as a consequence, possibly lessen the number of American lives lost), what IS the proper title to give someone like that?

Do I think he REALLY has such info? Not by a frog's hair! But his demented ass boasted that he holds such info. So LET'S SEE IT! :crazy:
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:10 PM
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26. Poor Long Suffering Cindy McCain
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Boddingham Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:15 PM
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27. "I'll advise the military how to find and capture Bin Laden."
Truth is that he doesn't know jack shit about how to capture Bin Laden. He doesn't know jack shit about much of anything.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:38 PM
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29. He's just a bitter old man
Delusional and Myopic.
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