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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:22 PM
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Sam Brownback, R-Kan is a member of the Family

It has now been established that Sam Brownback, R-Kan is a member of the Family or C Street. It is a religious cult that many member of the US congress belong to. Here is an article from Counter-Punch:

C Street Band

By NIKOLAS KOZLOFF
As the Republican Party implodes the public is becoming aware of a secretive Christian society known as the Family or the Fellowship. The group was founded in 1935 in opposition to FDR's New Deal and its adherents subscribe to a far right Christian fundamentalist and free market ideology. A minister named Abraham Vereide founded the Family after having a vision in which God visited him in the person of the head of the United States Steel Corporation (no, I’m not making this up). The Family has a connection to house on C Street in Washington, D.C., known simply as C Street. Officially registered as a church, the building serves as a meeting place and residence for conservative politicians.
Few members of the fellowship talk about the group’s mission. The organization organizes the annual National Prayer Breakfast which is attended by the president, members of Congress, and diplomats from around the world. Earlier this year Obama presented his Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships at the event. According to Jeff Sharlet who wrote a book about the group the Family’s philosophy is based on “a sort of trickle-down fundamentalism,” which believes that the wealthy and powerful, if they “can get their hearts right with God ... will dispense blessings to those underneath them.” True believers in market orthodoxy, Family members think that God's will operates directly through Adam Smith's “invisible hand.”
The Family’s current leader Doug Coe is secretive but enjoys considerable political influence as a spiritual adviser. When South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford, himself a visitor and a kind of honorary alumni at C Street, compared his political difficulties involving his affair with an Argentine woman to those of biblical King David the South Carolina politician was falling back on a central figure in Family theology. You could “almost hear Doug Coe’s voice” coming out of Sanford, Sharlet remarks.
C Street’s stately red brick, $1.1 million building is subsidized by secretive religious organizations and is located a mere stone’s throw away from the Capitol. Lawmakers who live there include Reps. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn.; Bart Stupak, D-Mich.; Jim DeMint, R-S.C.; Mike Doyle, D-Pa.; and Sens. John Ensign, R-Nev., Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, and Sam Brownback, R-Kan. The lawmakers, all Christians, live in private rooms upstairs and pay an incredibly low rent --- a paltry $600 --- to live at C Street.
Tenants dine together once a week to talk about religion in their daily lives. Richard Carver, a member of the Fellowship’s board of directors who served as assistant secretary of the Air Force during the Reagan administration, says “Our goal is singular—and that is to hope that we can assist them in better understandings of the teachings of Christ, and applying it to their jobs.” Senator DeMint, a Presbyterian who moved into C Street less than a year ago, says that members are wont to share a verse or a thought in Bible Study “but mostly it's more of an accountability group to talk about things that are going on in our lives, and how we're dealing with them.”

http://ottoswarroom.blogspot.com/2009/07/it-has-now-been-established-that-sam.html
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:26 PM
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1. Anyone who is a member of that group believes that they are entitled
to do anything they want as long as they do not get caught and as long as it furthers the goals of the group. Under those rules it is plain why they are all being exposed for their crimes and fornication. It is okay as long as it is a rich white man doing it!!
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:45 PM
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3. Although there are elements of racism in many groups that are bad.
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 02:14 PM by RandomThoughts
The goal of racism is to create a one race against another race thought. If you accept the premise that racist are being guided by something bad, you can see the goal is not some advancement of one race, but the actual goal is anger, violence, and hate between races.

I also would guess not all of the people in the group could be lumped into one stereotype, that always creates problems, but those that follow ideas that most disagree with should be shown to do those things, so their support, or lack of support, is based honestly on what they believe.

Many white people love people of other color and believe in the dignity of all men. Personally when I see things like this, I have to be careful since it is easy to fall into a trap when spurred to anger by racism. Its possible it could add divisions between many peoples that believe in equal dignity.

Although I think shining a light on activities of people that think they are better then some other group is a good thing. We are all beautiful creations of God in my view, and we are all flawed also.

Many white people have equal respect and love for people of all colors and creeds and religions. And I think information, knowledge, justice and kindness is the best ways.

I would think it is best not to join them by thinking it is about race, and realize that thoughts of lack of dignity for groups of people comes from somewhere else.


But I agree the self righteous mentality is really bad, but many can learn different things and different ways as they think on things.

Edit: This post is not about the guy mentioned in the article, just my thoughts on broad brushes on groups.

One more thing to those that think they are special, don't give up, instead figure it out, I believe God gives grace, a fake diploma based on lies is not your strength, In my view if you think and feel on it, everything will works out. Its a choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbuU1OtaX4g
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:17 PM
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6. I lumped them together because they are a secret group that must
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 02:20 PM by jwirr
be joined. If this were not true then I would agree with you that you cannot stereotype but when a person joins a group they imply agreement with the groups ideals.


By the way I am white with both black and Native American great grandchildren so I do not think I would fit very well into anyones idea of a racist.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:00 PM
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8. Not saying you specifically, Was just a larger point
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 03:04 PM by RandomThoughts
mostly based on my own thoughts. It is not as much about not holding them accountable. The secrecy alone makes it very questionable, and the teachings of superiority also do. Then that guys comments on the worst people in history, and the support for tyrants just drives it into the ground as totally terrible.

But I find myself starting to blame all people of a class and race also, so wanted to comment on that from my own thoughts.

Basically the actions of racist are not to promote their own group, they are to hurt other people, and then get those people mad, to create more bad. The reason for evil is to create more evil but it does that by deceiving the people that believe in things like being special.

I don't think you are racist, nor do I think you were saying that, my apologies if the phrasing of the comment indicated that thought.


Also, probably like you, I would want people that think like racist to figure out how bad that is.

I just want those people in that group to figure it out. If they can figure it out, it would be so much better for them and everyone else.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:30 PM
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2. Well Duh
He's also an ignorant fool.

When I lobbied at Brownback's office in DC this past February, first thing I saw in the waiting room was a TV tuned to FOX News. Right next to it was a crucifix. Then when I went back to the cubicle to talk to his staffer, first thing I noticed in her office was a picture of her with a group of people standing on the steps of some building holding a banner that said THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH FOR FUNDING ABSTINENCE ONLY EDUCATION. Next to that was a crucifix and a picture of this woman with her church choir at some choir competition.

Brownback also belongs to a weird Catholic cult that has taken over a small town just north of Topeka. They say the Mass in Latin and segregate girls and boys in school.

And this man wants to be my next governor. :puke:

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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 01:58 PM
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4. Most Republicans are members of the MANSON Family
All kidding aside, Brownback is the FIRST Republican I'd expect to be taking orders from Coe. I'll bet Rick Santorum was Coe's favorite son, back in the day.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:04 PM
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5. This explains a lot doesn't it?
<snip>
The group was founded in 1935 in opposition to FDR's New Deal and its adherents subscribe to a far right Christian fundamentalist and free market ideology.
<snip>

Mix a bit of racism, homophobia, poor Americans and you have today's Repug party.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:18 PM
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7. And so why is Hillary a member?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 07:55 PM
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9. No explanation for that...I don't make excuses for Dems that
do things that are not acceptable.
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