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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:21 AM
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"Bombs Won't Liberate the Women of Afghanistan!"
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:24 AM by ConsAreLiars
That'sthe title Perer Werbe gave it on his site. Greenwald is more subdued, titling this 11-minute video simply "Women of Afghanistan." This is part 5 of Robert Greenwald's documentary on Afghanistan. See Rethink Afghanistan for this and more: http://rethinkafghanistan.com/

I'll also post the link as provided by Peter Werbe, because there is much more worth viewing at that site. Go to http://www.peterwerbe.com/ and find it at the top.

Following is an excerpt from RAWA. a women's and human rights group active in Afghanistan for decades:

Afghan women burn in the inferno of
fundamentalists and invaders


Today on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the International Women’s Day, women in the developed countries celebrate it with joy, but we still have to voice the miseries, problems and cruelties that our people and particularly women are going through in Afghanistan.

After the US and allies invaded Afghanistan around seven years ago, they misleadingly claimed of bringing peace and democracy and liberating Afghan women from the bleeding fetters of the Taliban. But in reality Afghan women are still burning voraciously in the inferno of fundamentalism. Women are exchanged with dogs, girls are gang-raped, men in the Jehadi-dominated society kill their wives viciously and violently, burn them by throwing hot water, cut off their nose and toes, innocent women are stoned to death and other heinous crimes are being committed. But the mafia government of Mr. Karzai is tirelessly trying to conciliate with the criminals and award medals to those who should be prosecuted for their crimes and lootings.

Unaware of the realities, some people considered the presence of tens of women in the parliament as a symbol of democracy, development, freedom and women’s rights. But it is clear now that these women are related to intelligence agencies or fundamentalist bands, are like dolls in the hands of Jehadi warlords who are calmly watching the adversity of our misfortunate women and instead of revealing and protesting against the horrible condition of women, are busy in corruption and collaboration with the sworn enemies of women’s rights and keeping their position in the parliament. If these women were truly representatives of Afghan women, they should have stood firmly beside Malalai Joya to fulfill their obligation towards our people and country with honesty and sincerity.

From: http://www.rawa.org/events/mar8-2008_e.htmText


If you learn a bit more about them, you will discover that one of the most courageous and on-the-ground effective organizations you can imagine. Greenwald includes this Donate link on his site: http://www.afghanwomensmission.org/help_us/donate.php

And here's a picture from Afghanistan before the US decided that funding and organizing religious crazies and importing and arming still more would be "A Really Good Idea" because it would increase the odds of the USSR moving in, and that the mass killings and millions dead that would result would also be "A Really Good Thing" for the powers that be (then and now) in the US.





And just for a slightly longer time frame. I was there in 1970 and 1971. My female companion wore a bandanna over her hair as she had since entering East Istanbul and beginning our overland trek. She/we got harassed in Turkey (just one unfortunate encounter, not a pattern), but never in Iran or Afghanistan, although we were always on public ground transportation and stayed in accommodations intended for the local population, not rich gawkers.


(edit to add a small clarification)
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:30 AM
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1. War has never been a good thing for anyone, except those who ordain it
from afar and make money off of it.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:43 PM
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2. kick (nt)
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:10 AM
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3. Americans need to see more photo's like this
I'm so sick and tired of people thinking Afganistan was always under Taliban rule and women in burkas and men with beards.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 01:00 AM
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5. The Burkas and beards were probably 95-98 % of that reality before the
US began funding religious extremism. A total culture shock for me. But equally real and present was an attitude of tolerance toward differences in cultures. The one rule was "You help me, I'll help you," and the converse. This is probably because Afghanistan has thousands of years of tribal based and larger communities with some vary different ethnic histories, languages, appearances and clothing styles and all that, interacting in a non-destructive (mostly) fashion. At the top level of the societies, warlords/princes might initiate wars of conquest or retribution, but at the local level and between groups, there was no motive or desire to cause further hardship.

So in Afghanistan then, nomads wore the kind of dress the "Afghan Girl" photo showed, and in the high end neighborhoods in Kabul the women dressed like the women in Iran or Turkey. That photo above was taken when a progressive party was playing a significant role in the coalition that formed the government, and was not something I saw when I was there.

There's a history of the ups and down's of the move toward equal rights for all humans in Afghanistan that is worth reading. I'll dig it up.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 02:04 AM
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8. I posted that history in a new thread at this link -->
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 02:05 AM by ConsAreLiars
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:52 AM
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4. knr thanks for posting - needs a wider audience nt
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 03:22 AM
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6. Thanks for the knr. Too few have half a clue.
I hope my occasional posts give one or three at least 1/10th a clue. And maybe reading through my first-hand accounts in my journal and the ;inks in them will give a little more than that.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:16 PM
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7. The women of Afghanistan could use some of the media
atention the women of Iran have received, every little bit of info helps...if they tell someone else.

:)

And you're welcome.



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