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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 07:52 AM
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CIA (Secret Program)Had Plan to Kill al-Qaida
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Wall Street Journal reports that the CIA program concealed from Congress was a secret plan to kill or capture al-Qaida operatives.

Former intelligence officials tell the Journal that the plan, which was ordered halted by agency Director Leon Panetta, was an attempt to carry out a 2001 presidential finding authorized by President George W. Bush.

Citing anonymous sources, the newspaper reported Monday that the CIA spent money on planning and maybe some training, but it never became fully operational. The plan was highly classified and the CIA has refused to comment on it.

The program remained so secret that no members of Congress were told about it, allegedly on orders of Vice President Dick Cheney.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUYIQzuMD55oCy3UG7v6wITLOBewD99DHJTO1
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And....what else did this secret program contain?
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 07:55 AM
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1. ponies and puppy dogs?
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 07:58 AM by mucifer


probably not.

:(

scary stuff.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:00 AM
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2. It depends on who they label "al-Qaida"...
With no oversight and no need for evidence...

(We've seen how well that worked in Gitmo...not).
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:01 AM
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3. It does sound like dick's private assassination ring.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:06 AM
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4. Was this the plan that McCain kept claiming to know about?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:13 AM
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5. I don't think that would be it or at least not all of it, because you could still peddle that
shinola to the public: you could spin an assasination team easilly enough, hell, we're torturing people and no one is marching in the streets about it.

I think there's more that we aren't seeing yet.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:22 AM
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6. Liz Cheney on Morning Joe tomorrow
Mika mentioned Liz Cheney will be on tomorrow, probably to defend her MIA father, but I am curious to hear if she has anything to say about this since even Congress was unaware of this program.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:28 PM
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21. Gawd - she must have seen every secret file there is for her to want to chat on this issue

Can we put her on a lie detector and see if we can generate a real answer sometime soon?
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:36 AM
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7. If this is about cheney assassin squads to kill al-qaida...
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 08:36 AM by nomaco-10
and the repubs are allowed to frame this as, 'we were keeping amurika safe', then this thing backfires.

If this whole thing was to rehab pelosi, and it backfires, it was a stupid thing to do. If there is more to this we don't know, and it can't come out because of national security reasons, this thing backfires.

We all know cheney was running a shadow government, exposing a CIA operative because her husband disagreed with him, visiting the CIA on several occasions, trying to churn out false intelligence to ratchet up support for the Iraqi war, meeting with oil companies to divide up the oil in Iraq, making sure Halliburton got no bid contracts.

Whatever it is, I hope they can make it stick this time. This criminal needs to be made accountable at some point.







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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:21 AM
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8. The assasination squad story is most likely disinformation
Intended to distract and mislead people away from the actual program.

Don't chase the mother bird fluttering away, pretending to have a broken wing. Look for the nest.
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humanahumana Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:35 AM
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9. that's BS, the w gang was bragging about this policy back in 01
The United States has said it still opposes Israel's policy of targeted assassinations, despite its apparent use of the same tactic to kill six al-Qaeda suspects in Yemen on Sunday.

"Our policy on targeted killings in the Israeli-Palestinian context has not changed," US State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said.

Mr Boucher refused to talk about the Yemen attack, but said that Washington's reasons for opposing the targeted killings of Palestinians might not apply in other circumstances.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2408031.stm
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:43 AM
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10. That was a secret ??
I thought that was what the US Army was doing in Afghanistan??
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:49 AM
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11. Well, yeah!! I would hope the fucking CIA was killing al Qaeda operatives EVERY CHANCE THEY GOT.
It's my impression that's what we're paying them and the black ops guys for.

Assassinating political opponents on the other hand, not so much.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:56 AM
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14. Yes, a more surgical approach would be better than bombing the shit out of civilians
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 11:58 AM by Incitatus
However, there is clearly room for abuse of such a program.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:12 PM
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17. As in any program. You are absolutely right that the "surgical approach"
is a far better method to use than our current bomb-them-back-to-the-Stone-Age campaign. I also agree that there is a chance that someone is going to abuse a program like that. But, we elect people who we hope will restrain those persons as the law demands--not Bush/Cheney types who turn that type of program into an even worse abomination than it already is.

What most of us forget in the comfort and safety of our all-American worlds is that there really are a lot of people out there, like al Qaeda, who want to kill Americans just for being Americans. I'm not interested in arguing the merits of al Qaeda's philosphy, just negating the results of their works. So, I am glad that we have people who are paid well to eliminate those kinds of enemies of Americans.

I believe that most of us thought we did our jobs well in electing President Obama. We are hoping that he and his administration will rein in some of the "off the books" programs that were the brainchildren of BushCo. Judging from Director Panetta's actions I think we are making progress.





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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:51 AM
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12. WSJ Putting Out A Screen
This was an assassination program PERIOD. Not only for AQ operatives. IOW, they were assassinating whoever Cheney told them to, regardless.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:54 AM
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13. this could include black box voting whistleblowers, any so-called enemies of the empire
were secretly rubbed out... US citizens, I believe.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:03 PM
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16. I concur, much of it "privatized" and includes domestic "work" eom
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:19 PM
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19. Or worse, it was about training death sqauds...
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:00 PM
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15. Bullshit. "Dead or alive" is secret? Smoke and mirrors to distract from Shooter's REAL crimes.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:17 PM
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18. Of course that is part
of it. But as everyone here "gets," that would not have been kept secret from Congress. That's just the tip of the ice cube.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:26 PM
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20. doesn't seem like something you would have to keep from Congressional highers-up then

me thinks it is more than that - otherwise it would be a simple covert-ops mission which would easily be something which could be briefed since it is probably similar to operations carried out by military forces all the time

me thinks it is more
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