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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:35 PM
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Freerepublic Refuses To Apologize For Racist Remarks Against Obama's Daughter...
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:55 PM by BlooInBloo
That's the only thing that anyone will take away from the Schuster interview.


EDIT: A nice poster below provided this link to the video - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/07/13/free_republics_kristinn_taylor_spars_with_shuster_over_malia_thread.html
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:36 PM
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1. Wow...
This guy is a complete jackass...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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4. Isn't he?
And...it's over!

What got me was his comment that the stuff wasn't "that vile."

I would have liked more attention paid to this subject -- given all the other shit FR has posted -- but I guess they have to move on.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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7. It got national teevee at lunchtime - I can live with that.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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5. You should apologize to all the jackasses out there
He is a lower form of life than a jackass. He is a piece of shit, something we rid ourselves of daily.
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM
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19. You're right...
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:59 PM by Versailles
Considering that I'm a jackass (the democratic type to be proud off!)

*gah...edited for "your" "you're" mistype...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:36 PM
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2. Refuses to take any responsibility. Does that ever sound familiar! nt
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:44 PM
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20. Let me guess, he's a member of the party of responsibility and integrity
Right out of newt gingrich's playbook.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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3. Plus, he is a liar.
The thread was put back up.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:37 PM
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6. Gotta say it. That guy absolutely creeped me out
Frightening.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:01 PM
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29. Me too... he had a creepy demeanor and...
It looked like he hadn't showered or even brushed his hair beforehand. I'm not even trying to be mean about it but that is honestly what I thought. :(

Part of getting your message across on TV, whether we like it or not, is your physical appearance. He failed miserably in that way.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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8. They Looked Exactly Like What They Are
I define a true racist by someone who says things like that man did with no idea what they are sounding like. Sure we all know people who make racist remarks that they try to cushion, but when there is no cushion, there is no doubt what they are. Disgusting.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:35 PM
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34. An exemplary representative of the "Aryan Race"?....heh heh.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:39 PM
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35. "Dumb white monkey" is more like it.
:P
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:40 PM
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38. I'll buy that!
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:38 PM
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9. I don't know what I'm supposed to say after watching that.
Honestly.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:39 PM
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10. That he came across as anything but honest.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM
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13. Only if you're on the left. It seemed more like take from it what you want
the left says yea-YAY and the right will say yea-YAY.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:46 PM
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22. I'm pretty sure he came across as a dumbass Lenny-type, acting like a little kid...
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:47 PM by BlooInBloo
"but maaaa! it wasn't THAT bad!!!" to most folks.

And refusing to even so much as apologize just cinched it.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM
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11. What I want to say, they probably couldn't print.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM by HughBeaumont
Great, so now that shitty HTML circa 1994 site is going to gain more members and publicity. Classic.

Kristinn should be banned from TV until he learns to elucidate coherently.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM
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17. Same here. I cussed like a sailor. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM
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12. I came up with "fuck you, bigot". Not creative, I know.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:42 PM
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15. I was expecting more fire from David.
My expectations are too high I guess Bloo.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:43 PM
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18. "My expectations are too high" - You get over that after awhile.
:P
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:45 PM
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21. I got out a, "fuck you, you smarmy lying piece of shit." I wish we could've heard Shuster's real
thoughts. He was visibly pissed and biting his tongue multiple times.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:47 PM
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23. Heh. I think he was kind of amazed.
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:41 PM
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14. Hmmm
Feels like they cut that a lot shorter than what they had planned on when that dofus wouldn't say anything in defense or apologize for the comments. The guy went on the offense (and frankly showing the Freeper insane mentality) and was just spewing baseless attacks of ALL liberals. He was being given an opportunity to explain FR and the comments there, but instead used what he thought was going to be his 15 minutes as a podium to grandstand. If I were a producer, I'd have cut that segment immediately. A rambling moron yelling over the host and avoiding questions isn't good television.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:47 PM
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24. They need to regroup, get the writer of the Vancouver article, and then come back full-force
and give the real side of the story. It was definitely cut short, partly because of that gasbag, but I'd imagine also partly because Shuster was about to tell that POS off.
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:51 PM
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26. Good point...
Upon replaying, Shuster looked ready to blow his top and unload. Probably a good idea to cut it short...Freeper ended up looking like the unbalanced one but everyone got gyped on the real story.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:56 PM
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28. Totally. Shuster's mouth became very tight and contorted as if he was struggling to keep certain
words from escaping and firing towards that Freep.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:49 PM
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39. I kept thinking "CUT HIS MIC!"
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:42 PM
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16. And we are surprised by this why?
they're repukes, do we ever expect anything more from them? I mean really.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:50 PM
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25. Here is the video, Shuster did fine...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:54 PM
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27. Thanks! Shamelessly stealing the link and adding it to the OP.
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 02:55 PM by BlooInBloo
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:02 PM
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30. After watching . . .
First thing that came to my mind - was Shuster not allowed to repeat the comments posted on FR? I understand they are vile and no one wants to hear them again, but it does make it harder to argue with the bigots when you can't use their words against them. If Shuster wasn't allowed to repeat the comments on air, that put him at a disadvantage.

Second - the guy immediately deflected criticism aimed at FR and attacked Daily Kos. That just screamed nutjob. Really showed the victim mentality of the right.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:14 PM
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32. Racism good, reporting on racism bad.
That's how the racists at FR roll.
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:39 PM
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36. I wouldn't be surprised...
If there was a specific request from the White House to not have those comments read aloud. If not from Barack or Michelle directly, then one of their spokespeople.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:12 PM
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31. I guess you have to give them "credit" for staying consistent with their racism!
And not lying that they are trying to protect their readers from such!

:eyes:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:31 PM
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33. Schuster could have answered his own question:
"What will you do to discourage people posting from using such hateful, vile language"?

Than answer lies in FR's initial request of their posters to "caption" the photo of 11 year old Malia -- What kind of responses were they expecting? -- That was "encouraging" ugly remarks and they knew it.

BTW, seventeen year old Britol Palin, to whom the Freep was clearly referring, may be Sarah Palin's "child" but in terms of age, there is obviously no comparison to an ELEVEN year old.

I believe Schuster was trying to say that, but the Freep tried to "filibuster" the whole exchange and barely let him finish a sentence.
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:40 PM
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37. They apologize and then what?
They'll still be racist turds who only apologized because they were backed into a corner...
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 04:07 PM
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40. That hippy should get a haircut.
He probably spits on soldiers too! :grr:;)
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Twinguard Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 04:11 PM
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41. David Schuster totally dropped the ball today.
He could have been way more effective with a few simple tactics.


-He should have quoted a few of the comments so his audience knew what these "vile remarks" included. This would have nullified the freeper's "they weren't that bad" line, or at least painted him in the proper light of being a blatant racist and idiot. He didn't need to repeat any that used the N-word, but "ghetto trash" would certainly have set the stage.

-He (or a producer/director) should have cut, or reduced the volume of, the freeper's mic so he could get a word in edgewise. He was bullied. He has access to the technology to prevent this and save his own face, but he didn't use it.

-He should have done his homework about when the thread started, when it was removed, and when it was put back up. He could have given the count of how many posts it had, including how few of those posts actually tried to defend Obama's daughter from the shit being flung. He should have been specific.

-He should have been forward with his sources. Sure, he probably got his info from DailyKOS, but he could have obtained his info from the Vancouver newspaper, or DU, or any number of other places. If he had told the freeper that he had multiple sources, he might have looked less like a wimp.

-He could have included more info about freerepublic, including the ties to Dr. Tiller's assassin and the Holocaust Museum shooter. Maybe paint the picture a little bit better by including information on how other threads frequently use such racist, bigoted, misogynistic, and purely hateful language. This would have made his freeper guest look like a whiny little turd when he starts in with the "but they do it too" garbage.

-When the freeper brought up Palin (and we all knew he would), Schuster should have stopped him cold by saying that this interview/discussion was about Malia, not Bristol.



Normally, I like Schuster and his colleagues at MSNBC (I don't get up early enough to catch Morning Joe, and when the doctor show is on, my kids monopolize the TV with Discovery Kids shows), but he was made to look like a fool today. If it was a debate, Schuster got pwnd by an intellectual lightweight because he couldn't/wouldn't defend himself or his story when he had the chance.

Let's hope that Olbermann gives this story a mention, maybe in Worst Persons.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 04:15 PM
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42. Yeah, that was sort of a waste of effort
The message I got out of it was that FR relies on it's own racists to report on racist statements.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 04:33 PM
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43. Noted !
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