Re: Edwards house..."SO FUCKING WHAT?????"

I'm sorry - as much as I find Marx and Engels to be relevant today, I do not beleive with weath redistribution.

I do believe in programs to help the poor enter the middle class, and help the middle class enter the upper class.

But so what if Edwards has a nice house - he found the way to the top and now he wants the door to be made wider.

If you hold this against him you are buying the BS and faux outrage from the very people who want to seal that door.

:puke: < that's how I feel about it.

So what? he has a big house. Who the fuck cares.

He wants people to have the same opportunity to reach their goals.

So what legislation did he propose that would have done so in the six years he was in the Senate?

....waiting....


.....waiting.....














.....still waiting....

You can ask him yourself on johnedwards.com or look up the legislation yourself.


On edit: John Edwards doesn't hate America, because you're too lazy to investigate your own concerns. You clearly have your mind made up, and it's not my job to teach you how to use THOMAS.

and cannot read other threads since either no eyeglasses or open mind. Legislation has been laid in front of poster many times today. He's a roll with a capital T on Edwards. You would think he would be praising his own candidate since there is a remote possibility of an exploratory committee.

Not sure what the point of asking us to sift through THOMAS to find legislation that won't persuade the bridge dwellers anyway.

Sez to me laziness in reading the different initiatives and voting, when asking, and yet not reading what is presented.

if everyone had his goals and was able to meet them? Would that be a good thing if we all lived like him?

but that if he were to be the nominee he would get the same and worse from his opponent and their supporters.

If he were to take up the mantle of global warming, which he damn well better intend to do if he's doing to be a Dem contender, then he will face the critisism.

...so regardless of it's relative stupidity, it's a real issue.

Global Warming is going to be the central issue of the next election. Maybe a 30,000 sq ft. house for 4 people will seem somewhat hypocritical to voters. We would surely find out, and the preview on DU is that it would to some.

is a big deal to me. I have kids having kids. I want them to have a future. They won't have money so they will have to make good choices with their limitations. those who have a lot will put a price on those who don't by the grossness of their own moneyed choices. I think Aaron Spelling's house is grotesque. makes me ill to think about it. I hope all those who refuse to see the impact huge houses from anyone, let alone edwards, are old so they won't face the catastrophe coming from the indifference to the environment that this represents. I'm old. I probably won't face the worst of it. I feel for those that will.

Unless anyone think I'm blowing smoke out my ass, in my hometown the ice is melting and flooding. Ice melting in Alaska in January: http://ap.peninsulaclarion.com/pstories/state/ak/20070127/142501349.shtml

This is what I believe. I am seeing it now. I pray we put down our blinders before its too late.

he wouldn't be building a house like that.

Now he will need to buy carbon offsets, and should do it quickly. And he better run CFL's and energy efficient appliances throughout.

We all need to make choices that reflect an understanding and acceptance of what's happening, even the richest among us.

Stay optimistic and just do what you can do.

maybe making a PR issue out of poverty and then buying a 30,000 sq.ft. compound might, maybe, possibly, conceivably raise issues of - gasp - hypocrisy.

hehe

there should be opportunities for everyone to try and lift there lot in life up..and once you lift it up you should be able to enjoy it some...and still work to help others.

can say about the man - feel pretty good about it, they are "reaching"...if there was anything really stinky, they would have dug it up in 2004. I think the man is honest and has integrity, more so than some of the other candidates out there. My two cents.

It seems to me that most of those who have a problem with his house are people who support some other candidate (badly, in my view) or just plain trolls. I have yet to see a sound argument for the "outrage".

A lot of longtime DU'rs -and some particularly thoughtful ones, have posted a dozen or so sound arguments about this.

The soundest ones are generally based on perceived hypocrisy and poor judgment. I think there's also an arrogance factor to consider- along with an environmental angle, which isn't so easily dismissed.

Some of us were leaning Edwards (in my case despite past criticism for similar lapses in judgment).

Bottom line is that if he didn't realize that this would be an issue with a lot of people -one that would be brought up by his opponents AND the MSM every time he did his two America's deal, then I'm concerned about other decisions that he'll make during the campaign- or as president.

Republicans are not allowed to treat the environment like crap but we can cut down 50,000 trees and suddenly its cool? :shrug:

I think there are good points on both sides but it's not a stupid topic. There are legitimate inconsistency's to our so called Democratic values about living modestly and caring about the environment. It's also an issue that is spreading across the Republican biographer like fire and will likely haunt Edwards all through his campaign.

We have been a target of their sick disruption for several years. Many, many of them to be exact. It's obvious by the topic of Edwards house gets attention by these Trolls only because we give them the power.

Sometimes the Trolls ban together and play things up to give real DU'ers the false impression of the Thread being a discussion item....all along it's just bait.

Use your instincts and avoid the trap.

This labeling has me as concerned as anything I read here. Labeling people with alternative views and calling them names is the roots of fascism.

There have been multiple threads denouncing Hummers and SUVs in general. Is it now alright to own one? :evilgrin:

Hey, you earned the cats. Juggle 'em!

I have a friend who owns a lot of land near Grass Valley, CA. He's a big environmentalist and drives a Sequoia because he needs to get around where there aren't any roads.

Does that make him a bad person too?

And it's not a question of wealth redistribution- which I DO support.

The question is whether, individually, we are all doing what we reasonably can, keeping our own happiness in mind, for those who don't have as much as us.

Your blunt approach, in the name of defending Democrats, is hanging a whole lot of people counting on those very Democrats out to dry.

:toast:

Now let me explain that I live in Appalachia, in poverty at present, in a three bedroom trailer that needs serious repairs. Someday I will build a small house on the foundation that's waiting some yards from the trailer, but for now I actually have more room than I need.

Do I resent the wealthy? Hell no. I know affluent people who have done the most wonderful things with their money, more than I will ever be able to do in my lifetime. I have half-owned a seven bedroom/two kitchen custom home and I certainly hope no one resented me for that, as we were raising a load of kids in the place. We really did need and use all of the rooms.

Now consider someone in Edwards' position. There will be security details and family visiting and people to accommodate through his political career. Perhaps a large house makes that easier on everyone involved. He can entertain other politicians and strategists and they will be comfortable rather than crammed into every available space.

It's his money in the end, and his business and anyone who makes an issue out of it needs to figure out why they are jealous/resentful of someone who has more. Edwards is certainly the kind of person I want to have excess $$$. I wish every Dem had that economic clout, because they would use it for good.

So yes, Taverner, SO FUCKING WHAT?


:shrug: