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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 07:48 AM Original message |
Okay ... so the health "care" pan is starting to take some actual form...... |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ummmm...... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. See .... that's what I was referring to ..... |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The numbers I saw |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. A family at 134% FPL (about $33k) |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. True, but it would be a huge improvement (assuming the subsidies aren't watered down.) |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. 133% of FPL is $29,326 for a family of 4 or $14,400 for an individual. n/t |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. OK, let me revise the low-end numbers: |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. $88K for a family of 4; $43K for a single |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. $10K per family is about 8-9X what the Canadians pay... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I agree with you .... as stated in the OP |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Presumption of evolution, Stinky. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. **If** the public option is a good plan. and **if** it is cheaper than any comparable private plan . |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Some big 'ifs' there, but |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Actually, both ...... |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Not really. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. If you think I'm going in engage in some debate on minutia, you're wrong |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Nope. Wasn't trying to 'engage' you in anything more than |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. SMALL correction |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Well, several Canadians here have said that they pay only about $100 per month for a family, |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. "Under $88K income...pay nothing and get a "public option" plan." - clarification? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
10. The public option is vital. It will only grow stronger. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. And as it stays and grows, it will, de facto, become the single payer we really want. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. Correction. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yeah...the more I read about it... |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. This bill helps people with pre-existing conditions, no doubt. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It will affect small companies the same way... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
38. The people who benefit the most from this will be the people who benefit from the current system - |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. How will you get hit with a 3K "tax bill"? Please explain. nt |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I will get a 7K subsidy for insurance because my family makes less than $88K/year. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You have a family without any insurance at this time |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. LOL. I am already legally bankrupt. My debts exceed my assets. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Don't forget your deductible before the "public option" kicks in... |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yeah. Even after I am forced to buy insurance, I still won't be able to see a doctor. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. I certainly believe you and I have been there |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It's gross, as far as I know. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. In further response to your other questions-- |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. As someone who teeters on the edge of that 133% of poverty |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. Be prepared for the incoming attacks from the "progressives" here |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Agree - it would be nice to have a real discussion about health care on DU... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Well, you have your minds made up so there is no room for a real |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I admire their tenacity |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I'm agreeable to a public option if it's offering an improved and viable version |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Why do you hate America? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. Can you fry bacon in that pan? |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. It sounds similar to COBRA - |
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