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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:52 PM
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Chuck Todd foolishly agrees to talk to Glenn Greenwald
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 06:58 PM by Duer 157099
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/radio/2009/07/16/todd/index1.html">Transcipt and http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/radio/2009/07/16/todd/index.html">audio available at links.

Salon Radio: Chuck Todd

Yesterday, I voiced several criticisms of comments made earlier this week by NBC News Political Director Chuck Todd regarding potential torture investigations by the Obama Justice Department. Shortly thereafter, he emailed me to say that he wished I had contacted him before posting. In response, I invited him to participate in a podcast discussion with me of the issues raised by his remarks and my analysis of them, and, to his credit, he accepted.

This morning, I spoke with Todd for roughly 30 minutes about the relative significance of torture investigations, the implications of failing to prosecute high-level political officials when they break the law, the role of the media in these matters, and whether Todd was expressing his own views or merely repeating what the White House believes (the polling data I reference, along with the media's routine distortion of it, is documented here and here). The discussion can be heard by clicking PLAY on the recorder below (it can be also downloaded by MP3 here or by ITunes here). A transcript will be posted later today.


It just reinforces how intellectually shallow so many in the MSM are, and that they have any influence whatsoever over political discussions is scary indeed.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/radio/2009/07/16/todd/index.html
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:55 PM
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1. K&R
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:02 PM
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2. k&r
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:06 PM
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3. K&R
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:07 PM
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4. (shrug) Journalists are generally not very bright people.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:13 PM
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5. Doesn't mean we have to accept it
and if we can throw the spotlight on their ignorance, all the better imho.

They're certainly not going to do it themselves. Well. At least not knowingly. Clearly they do it all the time.

Glenn points out something very important:

"GG: Well, that's true. Now, let me ask you this last question. If you read the Founders, especially Thomas Jefferson, who was the principal advocate for the First Amendment, but others as well, talk about the reason why a free press was important: What they say is that the reason why a free press was so important was because it was going to be one of the most important adversarial checks against government and political power. That, specifically, they would lead the way in demanding that there be investigations and accountability for wrongdoing in political office. Not that they would be the spokespeople for why government officials didn't want investigations -- "

Unfortunately, Jefferson didn't include the caveat that the "free" press should also be "intelligent"--I guess he took that for granted.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:20 PM
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6. that was interesting
Chuck wasn't getting the point that by analyzing something through a strictly political prism at all times , HE contributes to politicizing the situation to the public, and distracting from the fact that laws were broken.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:43 PM
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7. Here's a synopsis in smilies
Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck:

Glenn:
Chuck: :dunce:
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:21 PM
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8. lol - that about covers it n/t
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:02 PM
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12. SNORT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:58 AM
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14. That is incredible! Thanks for the ROLFL!
:thumbsup: :rofl:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:00 PM
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9. Chuck Todd is an ass....I hope Greenwald nails his sorry ass.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:38 PM
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10. Chuck Todd nailed his own sorry ass n/t
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:04 PM
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11. K&R. Still listening. Chuck Todd really does dig several holes for himself during this convo. n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:32 PM
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13. Greenwald vs Todd?
ROFL...my money's on Greenwald, everytime! :D
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