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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:56 PM
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Banned Websites
I think it's time to add Free Republic to the list of banned websites.

IMO, anything posted from there is by definition is a violation of DU rules. And, rules aside, it's just plain wrong and totally against everything DU stands for.

Thoughts?

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:56 PM
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1. By that standard anything so much as quoting someone we dislike should be banned
Echo chambers suck.
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:02 PM
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10. Please. There's a big difference.
How many people here have advocated secession?

Do we have anyone here like Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:10 PM
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14. You're new here
Secession, either in the "we should leave" sense or the "they should leave" sense, is one of the perennial topics here, and while FR may have the controlling share of bigots as regards major political websites, DU's far from free of them.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:57 PM
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2. If websites are going to be banned (and since they are), FR should be the first on the list.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 06:59 PM
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3. There should not be any banned websites
Freedom of speech is a sacred right and should not be quelled. The freepers are just showing how f'ed up they are by the insane posts over there and most of the general public has caught on, at least those who have heard of "free republic".
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:01 PM
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4. I think he meant banned from being referenced on DU...
Not that I agree with that, of course. I mean, how can we make fun of the hilariously stupid stuff that is said over there, if we can't mention them?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:13 PM
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15. i completely disagree that certain sites should be banned...

...from being referenced on DU.

it's deeply and obviously wrong, imo.

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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:34 PM
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23. I tend to agree...
However, I think there may be some instances in which it's wise to not allow certain sites to be used as a reference. I saw a few instances in which someone would link to an anti-semitic website as 'proof' of something. Those posts were usually promptly removed, which I don't think is a bad move...
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:01 PM
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5. If you don't wish to read certain theads then don't read them.
Why impose this desire on everyone else?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:01 PM
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6. I unrecommend then hide all threads about Freepers or Free Republic.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:02 PM
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8. A much better approach than an outright ban. nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:08 PM
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12. I don't care what others talk about, but I don't want to see or recommend such threads.
If I were someone who wanted to advance Free Republic, I'd talk about them and post about them on the DU board. I'd pretend to be a DUer who loathed them, but would post threads and talk about them all the time.

There's a small group of people here who care about Free Republic. I don't get their fascination with the site. It's news when one of the freepers is caught doing something bad, but other than that, they're a bunch of latter day Neanderthals who can't spell.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:01 PM
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7. Why?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:02 PM
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9. I see links to that shithole here all the time. I don't click on them.
If I can, I read the posts that people copy to DU but for the most part it is such nonsensical babble that it is hardly worth the effort.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:07 PM
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11. I strongly disagree.
Hate is out there; we ought to have the stomach to face it.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:10 PM
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13. nope.
but people with less than 100 posts shouldn't get to propose rule changes. how about that?
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:15 PM
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16. Welcome. You should probably email the admins with your opinion.n/t
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:17 PM
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17. From the DU rules
Do not post messages that give publicity to websites that have little purpose other than to smear, disrupt, or complain about Democratic Underground. Currently there are only three websites that fall into this category. Their addresses are not listed here because we do not wish to give them publicity. They are easily identified by their bizarre obsession with Democratic Underground.

This, to me, seems to be a clear reference to Free Republic.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:24 PM
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19. No, it is not a clear reference to Free Republic.
If you saw the other sites, you'd understand the distinction.

There are subforums dedicated to us, with daily comments.

Free Republic mentions us from time to time, just as we do them.

:patriot:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:47 PM
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26. Free Republic is not one of those websites, they've actually been around longer than DU
Unfortunately they have plenty of publicity. Linking to them would not really do much to increase that.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:22 PM
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18. That posted content may break DU rules on another site is not the criteria for being forbidden here.
Certain comments at FR are over the top, but FR is not a hate themed site (like some) and it is not one that stalks DU posts and posters (like another site banned here).

I don't mind the occasional freeper post.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:25 PM
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20. Even for us secret Freepers?
oops...

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:26 PM
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21. RW thought is not banned here within the context of criticism or mockery of that thought.
The ban is on giving publicity to several sites (two from the right and one from the left) that have little purpose but to attack Democratic Underground.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:38 PM
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24. I wanna know what these sites are now... :P
I can take a guess about the two from the right, but I have no clue about the one from the left.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:45 PM
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25. Check your PMs.
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Rwalsh Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:30 PM
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22.  alright
I see I'm fighting a losing battle here.

I do think Free Republic is a hate site, though.

I'll just starting ignoring those posts. Thanks for your thoughts anyway.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:50 PM
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27. Why aren't they already?
:wow:
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 07:57 PM
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28. I don't think that banning websites ..
or any other form of expression is helpful for anyone. If you are going to take a stand in opposition to what someone says or writes you have to be able to refer to it in order to make a credible argument.

Also it is too close to book burning and censorship for me. I don't like what they say. I think they are a bunch of thugs, but nothing ever changes if you hide it and pretend it does not exist. I think it is enlightening in the way that it shows how debased and inhuman neocons can be. Whether or not you go there or read what they write is always your choice. but please don't ask to make the choice for others.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:18 PM
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29. i agree but---
Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 08:22 PM by madrchsod
the stated purpose of free republic is with in the guide lines of du. although they are more vile than say stormfront, stormfront is banned here because it stated purpose is promotion of the white race. if one went to stormfront one would find posting guidelines in the most popular forums. posting guidelines that far stricter than free republic.

i read stormfront at least once a week and i find even with their hatred they are saner than free republic
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 08:45 PM
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30. I got scolded once for linking to PrisonPlanet
And they have more agreeable things to say on some topics than FR ever does!

What gives?
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