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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:05 PM
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It's too early for national polling to have much meaning but these numbers ought to throw cold water
on all the "Oh My God! That Fred Thompson Guy From 'Curly Sue' Will Kill Us!!!" nonsense:


JOHN EDWARDS

57% Favorable;
35% Unfavorable

Matchup History

John Edwards (D) 49%
Rudy Giuliani (R) 43%

John Edwards (D) 55%
Mitt Romney (R) 29%

John Edwards (D) 50%
Mike Huckabee (R) 33%

John Edwards (D) 50%
Fred Thompson (R) 36%

John Edwards (D) 47%
John McCain (R) 38%


BARACK OBAMA

54% Favorable;
36% Unfavorable

Matchup History

Barack Obama (D) 49%
Sam Brownback (R) 34%

Barack Obama (D) 52%
Mike Huckabee (R) 32%

Barack Obama (D) 48%
Newt Gingrich (R) 38%

Barack Obama (D) 44%
John McCain (R) 44%

Barack Obama (D) 43%
Rudy Giuliani (R) 44%

Barack Obama (D) 51%
Mitt Romney (R) 36%

Barack Obama (D) 50%
Chuck Hagel (R) 34%

Barack Obama (R) 49%
Fred Thompson (D) 37%


HILLARY CLINTON

48% Favorable;
50% Unfavorable

Matchup History

Hillary Clinton (D) 46%
Sam Brownback (R) 41%

Hillary Clinton (D) 47%
John McCain (R) 46%

Hillary Clinton (D) 50%
Newt Gingrich (R) 43%

Hillary Clinton (D) 50%
Mitt Romney (R) 41%

Hillary Clinton (D) 47%
Rudy Giuliani (R) 48%

Hillary Clinton (D) 43%
Fred Thompson (R) 44%

Hillary Clinton (D) 48%
Chuck Hagel (R) 40%

Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/2008DemocraticPresidentialMatchups.htm
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:09 PM
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Like I've been telling people Edwards
is the best choice.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:23 PM
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6. I've heard people from both parties speaking of Edwards
as the best one out there. His economic populism is resonating among people from all political viewpoints, just as I predicted 6 years ago when Gore was running a bland, overpackaged, noncommittal campaign and I wrote him it was a very bad idea.

Clinton knew "It's the economy, stupid!" and that is why he won, even if he didn't govern that way.

The social attacks against women and gays and the fearmongering about guns have about run their course. Economic populism as a platform will be unstoppable.

Remember, this is the platform Gov. Brian Scweitzer of Montana ran when he won a sizable victory in one of the reddest states in this country.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:41 PM
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10. Edwards vs. Giuliani would set back the Repubs for more than a decade in the South
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:18 PM
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17. Except for the gun issue, yes. (n/t)
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:09 PM
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1. Like I've been telling people Edwards
is the best choice.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:11 PM
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3. That message definitely bears repeating.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:10 PM
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2. And you can bet the numbers look better for Dems than this if Rassmussen was involved
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:29 PM
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8. You got that right. I always adjust their numbers by at least 10 pts. nt
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:14 PM
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4. But but but I thought Fred Thompson was the Magic Christian!
His proponents seem to forget the little (R) after his name -- that alone cripples him.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:18 PM
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5. James Dobson (the Focus on the Family wingnut) doesn't think much of Fred the Magic Christian
Focus on the Family founder James Dobson appeared to throw cold water on a possible presidential bid by former Sen. Fred Thompson while praising former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is also weighing a presidential run, in a phone interview Tuesday.

"Everyone knows he's conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for," Dobson said of Thompson. " I don't think he's a Christian; at least that's my impression," Dobson added, saying that such an impression would make it difficult for Thompson to connect with the Republican Party's conservative Christian base and win the GOP nomination.

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Thompson, took issue with Dobson's characterization of the former Tennessee senator. "Thompson is indeed a Christian," he said. "He was baptized into the Church of Christ."

In a follow-up phone conversation, Focus on the Family spokesman Gary Schneeberger stood by Dobson's claim. He said that, while Dobson didn't believe Thompson to be a member of a non-Christian faith, Dobson nevertheless "has never known Thompson to be a committed Christian—someone who talks openly about his faith."


Source: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070328/28dobson.htm
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:26 PM
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7. Must be that half-his-age trophy wife
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 04:31 PM
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9. It may the wife, but it may also be Freddie's support for first trimester abortion rights and his
opposition to a constitutional amendment reversing Roe v. Wade.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:02 PM
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11. If Gore does not run, I want to see an Edwards/Obama ticket.
Edited on Mon Apr-09-07 05:03 PM by roamer65
Sorry folks, but these polls show just how polarizing Hillary is...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:08 PM
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12. Edwards/Obama, Gore/Edwards, Gore/Obama, Obama/Edwards - it's all good.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:13 PM
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13. I'm giving Gore until late September.
If he doesn't announce by then, my support goes to John Edwards.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:31 PM
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15. Gore is the only candidate from either party who can wait until after Memorial Day to get into the
race.

I'm not sure what it would take to tip Gore into the race. It seems like the current field of candidates will make a priority of the environment which is the omission which I think would push Gore over the edge:

Achieving Energy Independence & Stopping Global Warming Through A New Energy Economy
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"Our generation must be the one that says, 'we must halt global warming.' Our generation must be the one that says 'yes' to renewable fuels and ends forever our dependence on foreign oil. And our generation must be the one that builds the new energy economy. It won't be easy, but it is time to ask the American people to be patriotic about something other than war." – John Edwards

Our generation must be the one that ends our nation's dependence on oil and ushers in a new energy economy. We need energy independence from unstable and hostile areas of the world, from global warming pollution, and from the old ways of doing business. If we harness American ingenuity to reach for transformative change, we can emerge from the crisis of global warming with a new energy economy that stimulates innovation, brings the family farm back to life, and creates more than 1 million jobs in America's farms and industries. Today, John Edwards called for America to embrace three great goals for this generation:

* Halt global warming by capping and reducing greenhouse gas pollution and leading the world to a new global climate change treaty.
* Create a new energy economy and 1 million new jobs by investing in clean, renewable energy, sparking innovation, a new era in American industry, and life in family farms.
* Meet the demand for new electricity through efficiency for the next decade, instead of producing more power.

As a result of the Edwards plan, by 2025 America will import 7.5 million fewer barrels of oil a day, produce 65 billion gallons of ethanol and other biofuels a year, generate 25 percent of our electricity from renewable sources, and produce more than 2 billion fewer tons of carbon dioxide emissions a year. Within a generation, America's cars and tracks will be virtually petroleum-free.
http://johnedwards.com/about/issues/energy/new-energy-economy/

Environment

As a member of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee in the 109th Congress, Senator Obama worked to ensure our nation's environmental laws and policies balance America's needs for a healthy, sustainable environment with economic growth. He will continue to push for sound environmental policies with his colleagues in the 110th Congress.
Global Climate Change

The issue of climate change is one that we ignore at our own peril. Senator Obama believes the U.S. must act now to reduce the emission of greenhouse gases that contribute to climate change. He is an original cosponsor of the Climate Stewardship and Innovation Act , which was introduced by Senators Lieberman and McCain in the 110th Congress.

More info: Senator Obama's speech to the Associated Press in April 2006 on climate change.
Environmental Health

Since coming to Washington, Senator Obama has made the elimination of childhood lead poisoning one of his top priorities. Over 400,000 children in the U.S. suffer from lead poisoning. Lead is a highly toxic substance that can produce a range of health problems in young children including IQ deficiencies, reading and learning disabilities, reduced attention spans, hyperactivity, and damage to the kidneys, brain and bone marrow. The most common source of lead exposure is lead paint in older housing.

During his first year in office, Senator Obama successfully fought to get the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to publish long-overdue rules for how contractors involved in the renovation and remodeling of homes should deal with lead paint hazards. To force the EPA to issue the rules, Senator Obama threatened to block the confirmation of an EPA official and passed an amendment to stop the EPA from delaying the rulemaking process. When the rules are eventually finalized, they will prevent 28,000 lead-related illnesses each year, resulting in an annual net economic benefit of more than $4 billion.

Lead is also present in many children's products. In 2003 and 2004, nearly 150 million pieces of toy jewelry were recalled because of toxic levels of lead. To address this problem, Senator Obama introduced the Lead-Free Toys Act to require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban any children's product containing lead.
http://obama.senate.gov/issues/environment/index.html


Since joining the Senate, I have proudly served on the Environment and Public Works Committee, where I have fought to clean up the air that New Yorkers breathe, protect the water they drink, and revitalize contaminated sites in their communities. I have also worked to protect the natural treasures that New Yorkers enjoy, from the waters of Long Island Sound to the Adirondack Mountains, to the Great Lakes. I strongly believe that it is our duty to be better stewards of our environment—for the sake of our own health and the natural legacy that we will pass along to future generations.

I have also worked to advance a balanced energy policy that will increase our energy independence, create jobs, and provide cleaner, more reliable energy. I support policies to diversify our energy supplies by investing in renewable energy technologies such as wind and solar, developing advanced energy technologies such as clean coal and hydrogen fuel cells, and promoting environmentally responsible recovery of oil and gas resources. We also need to take steps to use energy more efficiently, in our cars, homes, and offices. Taken together, these steps will help to reduce the high energy prices facing New Yorkers and the rest of the country and move us away from dependence on foreign energy sources.

Clean Air
While we have made major strides in reducing air pollution over the last three decades, much work remains to be done. Recent medical evidence strongly links air pollution to increased incidence of asthma attacks, heart attacks, cardiopulmonary disease, cancer, and premature death. MORE»
http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/environment/
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:15 PM
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14. Id rather Gore stay out, Edwards/Obama or Obama/Edwards
or Clark or Kucinich maybe even Dodd (but I don't know enough about him yet).
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 05:54 PM
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16. Edwards, Obama, Clark, Kucinich, Dodd - we have a good field and I'd be happy with any of those folk
I'd be disappointed if we couldn't nominate someone more progressive than Hillary, Richardson, or Biden but I'd support them. too, if the get the nomination.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:27 PM
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18. But....but.... I'm scarredd
Fred is sooooo presidential
NOT
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