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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:04 AM
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Professor is down-to-earth, friends say
Professor is down-to-earth, friends say
Acquaintances challenge police picture
By Tracy Jan
Globe Staff / July 23, 2009




Henry Louis Gates Jr. was walking with friends through Oak Bluffs on Tuesday evening, late for a dinner reservation. One after another, tourists on the busy street stopped the noted African-American scholar, seeking to shake his hand or snap his picture.

Gates repeatedly obliged, acknowledging the reason behind his suddenly spiking popularity: His mugshot from his arrest on a charge of disorderly conduct outside his Cambridge home last week has been broadcast around the world.

“Yeah, you want a picture with a convict,’’ Gates joked, one of his dinner companions recalled.

The encounters on Martha’s Vineyard were a telling glimpse of the real “Skip’’ Gates, friends and colleagues said yesterday, his affable manner and witty charm at sharp odds with the image that surfaced after his arrest last week.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/23/friends_say_skip_gates_rides_no_high_horse/?page=1
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 AM
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1. Odd. I recently heard he was tumultuous. I wonder who to believe?
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 AM by BlooInBloo
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 AM
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2. I had no doubt. I'm sorry he had to go through this, and I hope
he sues. Set a precedent, make a point, whatever.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:10 AM
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3. If Gates had an ego or a behavior problem, it wouldn't suddenly appear at 58.
The funny thing is, his success is likely due, in part, to his not having either because he's had to learn to tap a lot of resources and pull them together.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:16 AM
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7. This will make history -
that cop did Gates a great big favor, giving him a first-hand experience that he'd only heard or read about, and, given the power of his intellect as well as his splendid reputation, he'll set out to make lemonade out of this in the biggest possible way.

That cop, however he handled this, whatever was going through his mind, made history. Not the kind he had in mind, no doubt, but, nevertheless, he is now a very significant footnote in an episode that could be pivotal in our world today.

Gates has the chops to do this.

What I can't understand is that Cambridge is such a hip place, so completely blue, that something like this happening - something that sounds like it took place in Southie, South Boston - is just 'way out of whack with everything I've ever known about the place.

Racism creeps in even when you think you're safe. If you're black in America, nothing has changed, and you're never safe.

That absolutely sucks.......................
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:19 AM
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10. Good point on your
first paragraph..there will be lemonade.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:34 AM
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15. Did you see the picture of Gates in cuffs? Iconographic
but hopefully, not predictive of our country. :(

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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:13 AM
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4. Would any of these guys,
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 12:21 AM by Frank Booth
who I quickly pulled up from Harvard's website, and who look about the same age as Prof. Gates, have even been questioned by the police in the first place?







For some reason, I don't think it would have even registered if one of them were seen trying to get the jammed front door of his house open.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:15 AM
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6. Right. Instead, the police would be taking a report on the jammed front door
which might be an indication of an attempted break in while he was gone.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:13 AM
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5. What a bastard he is.
;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:32 AM
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13. This whole episode is like the Twilight Zone.
:crazy:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:16 AM
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8. That affability and witty charm are written all over his face...
He looks like a good guy to me.

But what do I know?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:22 AM
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11. I fess up, I think this guy could charm the socks off a snake.
He's the opposite of a stuffed shirt.

He's got video all over, here's one of his interviews with Charlie Rose:

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/37
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:03 AM
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16. I have to go back and watch the whole show - fascinating. He is so easy to listen to.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:07 AM
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17. I found this other great one on Lincoln, race and slavery:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:18 AM
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9. Very interesting
article, thank you!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:25 AM
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12. Tonight, Obama said Skip Gates was his friend.
And in a way, I get that because they are a lot alike. Gates is a little older but they both are a little in their heads, they both like a bunch of different things and they both really enjoy people. They're both small and big picture guys and that doesn't happen very often. lol
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:34 AM
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14. What "image"?
Since when is it illegal to yell at cops when they're on your property? They violated his Constitutional Rights for chrissake. What person in their right mind wouldn't get mad?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:54 AM
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18. Gates on Tavis Smiley
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:42 AM
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19. Dr. Gates tells his story on CNN:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 AM
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20. I think there is plenty to learn here and I believe this arrest should become
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 AM by peacetalksforall
a case study - not just in a law school, it should be taught in a meeting room of a school or community center or even in a park.

Step outside - no warrant.
Come inside without on assumption of burglary in progress - still no warrant.
Attempt to prove legality.
Attempt to affirm.
Dealing with simple verbal resistance - part of the job, as stated. .

What are the citizen's rights. Everyone should know.

Same for being stopped in the car.

There are probably some differences by State.

This should be a cooperative project between the police and the citizens. It should be voluntary, but highly attended - for all people of color or so-called non-color.

Do people have to have videos running in their own home? And what good does that do when your are a kid complying with an order to lie on the ground with some others and the police bashes your head into the ground or shoots you in the back?

Enough for the macho or ill trained or ill supervised or ill managed police-person treating people like dirt.

It is possible that the fear we have been fed for nine years is the same fear the police have been fed - everyone is a terrorist (while the terrorists are given Lear jet rides out of the country on the day of and after the terror).

The same type of program should be conducted for attempts to peacefully protest. We need improvements in this country - this country that is always bragging about how superior we are to every other country on the earth.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 09:25 AM
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21. K&R
:kick:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 09:32 AM
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22. Here's my perfectly unscientific read of Gates.
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 09:39 AM by Gormy Cuss
When one lives as an adult in the Cambridge area it's fairly common to run into the renowned professors walking through Harvard square, shopping in the same stores, or noshing in the same restaurants. Every time I saw Gates he was smiling and acknowledging passers-by like a regular Joe. The same was true of the late Stephen Jay Gould. In contrast, Alan Dershowitz seemed to have a *ahem* very high opinion of himself -- pompous is the word I'd use. If the Gates story featured Dersh instead I'd understand why the cop became peeved-- and the cop would still be wrong.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 04:04 PM
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23. Cambridge Police have history of racism
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 04:07 PM
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24. Ya think?
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