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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:47 AM
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8 year old Arizona girl is gang-raped -- then disowned by "shamed" parents.
The crime allegedly committed by the boys was horrible -- but the parents' behavior was even worse. The damage they have done to their daughter is incalculable. But there's no law against dumping your children, apparently.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2009/07/22/20090722sexassault0722-ON.html

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Phoenix police on Wednesday announced that they arrested four neighborhood boys in connection with the incident, in which investigators said the group lured the girl into the shed with chewing gum, held her down and sexually assaulted her.


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The girl and the four suspects are refugees from the war-torn West African country of Liberia, which, according to investigators, would complicate authenticating names and dates of birth.

Arizona Child Protective Services took custody of the girl after the July 16 incident at the apartment complex after her parents disowned her.

Hill said the parents blamed her for being victimized and bringing shame to the family.

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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:49 AM
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1. Yeah... sad...
Takes time and training, and classes and probation periods to get a drivers license when you are young, but any idiot can have a kid.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:58 AM
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2. What a fucked up culture.
"ages 9, 10 and 13" Fuck! Where did they even get the idea to rape someone?

And her d-bag parents need to be sent back to Liberia if they love the 15th century so much.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:03 PM
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10. Include those boys, too, since that is where they are from. My question is: how did they get in the
U.S. to begin with?
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:37 PM
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18. Hmm...
It involves the boys being related to Charles Taylor and Pat Robertson bribing right-wing immigration authorities and members of the Bush administration.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:06 AM
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3. We need to not admit people to America who hold backassward cultural views
Lord knows we have enough American citizens to deal with who hold such views.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:34 AM
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5. Who gets to determine what backassward cultural views are.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:39 AM
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6. I can tell you one thing, the parents in this story a dumb fucking pricks.
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 05:40 AM by armyowalgreens
I don't give a shit what culture you are from. That doesn't mean you all of a sudden lose the ability to draw logical conclusions.

They think she brought this upon herself? Uh no.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:55 PM
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8. All people -- including women -- are created equal. Anyone who believes otherwise shouldn't
come here.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:09 PM
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11. Us. That's who.
Through good old fashioned American common sense.

Let's not get bogged down in an over intellectualized web of moral relativism.

What happened here is backassward and has no place in America.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:24 PM
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14. Perhaps those who believe all people deserve the same rights and protections regardless of gender.
I can tell you such a culture won't produce incidents where the female rape victim is disowned or even stoned to death for "bringing shame to the family." Such a culture is one that demeans women and puts them on a lower standing than men.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 PM
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19. The backwardness of misogynistic blaming of the victim is objectively wrong, period!
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:16 PM
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12. Remember, though, that many immigrants come here...
...precisely to get away from those kinds of cultures.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 09:04 PM
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22. Yes indeed
And we should welcome such people.

We should not, however, welcome people who wish to bring the backassward attitudes with them to America. We have enough of that shit to deal with from white Southern Baptist evangelicals.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:31 AM
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4. yeah, blame the eight year old girl!! wtf!! it's just so sad that people would do this....
after all we've come through, women are still so mistreated.
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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 05:43 AM
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7. This story...I don't even know what to say about it.
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 05:46 AM by armyowalgreens
I mean stating that the parents "added insult to injury" is just too soft.


Honestly, words escape me. This entire story is fucked up on so many goddamn levels that it's absolute FUBAR.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:01 PM
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9. As long as immigrants come to this country, they bring their
attitude with them, not all end up in such a horrific story.

There are many young women who require special surgery to "repair" their hymen when they are getting married so the grooms will believe they are virgins.

There are still cases of fathers murdering their daughters for being raped. At least here, the police get there first.

This girl would be better off being placed in a foster home.

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MrBig Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:19 PM
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13. This is really disgusting. N/T
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:27 PM
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15. If everyone could please excuse me...
I have some people I need to beat half to death with a rusty crowbar.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:31 PM
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16. This girl is 100 times better off in foster care than with these backward-ass motherfuckers

Fuck Islamic culture and their devaluing of women and children.

Fuck 'em.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 PM
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20. Fuck Islamic culture?
Do you think this story is representative of Islamic culture?

I don't think it is.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:51 PM
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21. it's representative of their considering females to be of "lesser value"

That's what they believe.

A woman who has been raped is now "worthless".


This *IS* representative of their culture. They devalue women. They devalue children. And allah help you if you're both.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 09:12 PM
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24. I wouldn't say it was "Islamic" culture
More like tribal Middle Eastern/North African culture.

You don't see these attitudes in say, Indonesian or Chinese Uighur muslim societies.

It's like the infibulation practise. It's certainly not mandated by the Koran.
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:10 PM
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25. You have no dissagrement from me!
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:33 PM
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17. For fuck's sake...
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM by BolivarianHero
How are these "parents" any different than those goddamn Islamists the West should have left the Soviet Union finish off 30 years ago?

Incidentally, is anyone else wondering how much Pat Robertson and Charles Taylor would enjoy life as cellmates in a Venezuelan prison?

We must be extremely vigilant with regards to African immigrants from countries where the American brand of fundamentalist Christianity, by way of White missionaries no less, has gained considerable political and cultural influence.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 09:05 PM
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23. Wow! I'd say "unbelievable" but unfortunately, I know better.
That poor child.
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