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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 AM Original message |
Gates Was Arrested For Disturbing The Peace Of Sergeant Crowley?!? |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm white and I KNOW I would have been arrested if I had acted in like manner. |
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DU9598 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The police would most likely never have been called ... |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It was a citizen call to a possible break-in. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. This is a 300+ year old city. EVERY house has been broken into or it is new. |
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FloriTexan (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
95. Where does it say the house was previously burglarized... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 AM Original message |
You know that, huh. Aren't you special. Would your neighbor |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. What 'like manner' are you referring to? |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Really? Hypothetical. John Henry(white owner of the Red Sox) has just been dropped |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. And your arrest would be unconstitutional and unprofessional |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. so, trying to get into your home, a cop gonna arrest you, and you arent allowed to be mad |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. What "like manner?" Asking a question, in your own HOUSE, is against the law? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. What 'like manner' are you talking about? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. "The salient problem for the Cambridge Police Department is contempt of cop is simply not a crime, |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. I doubt it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. For at least the fourth time - what "like manner"? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
92. In your OWN HOME WITHOUT a WARRANT. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
93. YOU wouldn't have been provoked to 'act' in like manner! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. When did Gates private home become |
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winter999 (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. He was outside in front of a group of people. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. He was on his porch and the group of people were uninvited |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. He was asked to come outside by the cop specifically so the cop could arrest him. |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
87. Yep. The cop wrote in his report that he wanted to go outside and said he |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Got a link? I haven't read that. Where'd you find that 'fact'? nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. He was on his PORCH and the "people" were cops on his lawn, as well as |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. not just "can" but "have" refuted Crowley's report. That was mentioned |
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lazer47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. There isn't just one ignorant cop,, there are at least 2 more in the picture |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. but they didn't support Crowley. n/t |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Funny how his home became a public place |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. The Police have been given tremendous latitude in "law interpretation". |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
9. Gate's home is a "public place" - lol, that's rich. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. It is a pure case of contempt of cop |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Is there anything in that playbook about contempt BY cop? nt |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Specifically, contempt of civil liberties by cop. |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
18. Prez O sez Sgt Crowley is stupid |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. "acted stupidly" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
21. What's astounding is that this Professor's own living room and front porch |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. WAY too much "You did!" - "I didn't!" going on here.... |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Way too much "CYA" going on here. |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Yeah, probably.... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Gates was not harrassed. He was ARRESTED. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. As a 40yr old whitey who has NEVER had the cops act to my benefit, i am disturbed that ANY |
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augusta march (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
79. Nice respect for those who risk their lives to save yours... |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. it's their job to risk their lives |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. Thank you for defending me, My mother was a cop and Hates what the police have become. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. I didn't say elderly you double-y chromo case. |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I've been grilled a handfull of times, personally.... |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
89. With you, when your identity was proved, the matter was dropped. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. I've looked and cannot find any city ordinance or state statute that |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. C 272, S 53 according to the police report... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Well I guess the Sgt has not been properly trained then. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Wrong citation. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I believe you are mistaken as citations for those wrongs apply only to "in public places" |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Where in MGL: C 272, S 53... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Like I said, the cop lacks training - he should know of this decision or |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. "Police presence ALONE does not satisfy the public element". |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Nope, there were not other members of the public present on his |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. "That is the key here, on his porch". |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. And the cop should have given him his card and gone about his business. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Reviewing the police report I have doubts about the police side of the story. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Try Google street view... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
60. "getting loud" is an interpretation for the moment in my city that can run counter to... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I think this case is an appropriate answer to your post. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. My fiance was CHP... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Read the man's report, it doesn't support the arrest. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Is it all black people of a certain stature or just Professor Gates |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. It is my belief that Cornel would have deescalated with a perceivable success... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. Their laser focus on Skip, the UPPITY NEGRO is SO transparent. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
31. IT's wrong and it happens hundreds of times every day all across the country |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
32. Cops need to be required to display better demeanor towards citizens. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. passersby were probably surprised and alarmed to see cops cuffing Professor Gates at his home |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
40. The residence is on campus. Makes me wonder why campus police weren't called to it initially? |
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SacredCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yeah, that struck me as odd, too.... n/t |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. His residence is just inside the campus... |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. but 911 dispatch erred by not notifying campus police. They |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Have you even dealt with or know how dispatch operates ... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
44. Racist behaviour is a misdemeanor. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'm waiting to hear from his driver |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Surprised and alarmed" by the out of control white cop on the black homeowner? |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
55. I've seen this cop and he looks much younger than Dr. Gates |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. I don't care what color they are, tenured prof's too often think they're shit don't stink |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. And that's what everyone seems to be ignoring here... |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
63. Gates was wrong |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Police behavior is not "natural" - They aren't like tigers or bulls. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. He wasn't just being disagreeable |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Crowley didn't behave that way. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Ok, Don Quixote, keep fighting those windmills |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. "Like it or not the police have authority over you" |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. sure you have |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. If you don't act like a Gates, they don't give you shit |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #63 |
91. "The difference is that I was calm, respectful and pleasant." |
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sam kane (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #63 |
94. He was in his OWN HOUSE. nt. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
66. Translation: Questioning Sgt Oink's Misconduct |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. and charges are dropped and unless you have $$ and threaten |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. Get the fuck out Crowley. Seriously. Get the fuck out. |
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augusta march (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. Yeah...there are these wacky things called guns and people sometimes shoot them |
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Gothmog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
81. Here is a link to the actual police report by Crowley |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
84. Sergeant James Crowley is fast on his way to becoming |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
90. Well this sure got unrec'd, didn't it? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. 'SOME' people can't handle the truth and MANY don't give |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
99. Gates was arrested for ..."Contempt of Cop"..... |
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