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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:34 PM
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Are Trees renewable resources?
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I was under the impression that trees were renewable resources.
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I was under the impression using renewable resources was good.
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Just checking.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:35 PM
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1. My brother, a timber buyer, says "yes."
I say trees are renewable, but are not renewed properly or enough.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:37 PM
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2. With Christmas trees it's seven yrs. the renewable cycle I mean
I don't think the 'Dominion Theocracy ' observes a cycle.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:39 PM
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3. What's this about?
Does it something to do with a 'house' thread?
I've been trying to avoid them.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:39 PM
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4. hardwood trees in practice are not renewable resources
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 09:54 PM by pitohui
i am sorry

what happened in the southern usa and which, i suppose, will inevitably happen to the amazon and everywhere is pretty simple -- hardwood trees that live for hundreds of years have been replaced with trash pines that do not provide food or habitat

hence the term "pine tree desert"

hence the observation that you see no wildlife other than white-tailed deer and maybe some crows in pine tree desert

a lot of people share your misconception, primarily because they have no idea that most of the real trees were destroyed by 1920, at least in the southeast


any trees that john edwards may have cut down in north carolina were, by this time of century, highly unlikely to be "real" trees or "real" habitat -- that was gone before most of us were born

you can get a hint of along the natchez trace but in north carolina? i wouldn't worry about it
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:55 PM
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5. Yeah
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 09:57 PM by BeFree
But the way to say it is that forests are not renewable.

Trees grow just about anywhere but a fully functioning forest of trees is a rare thing these days. Only 10% of the forests here 200 years ago still exist.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:01 PM
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7. N Carolina has the most Old Growth
in the south. Although you're right, Edwards trees probably weren't virgin forests. I don't think that means we can disregard the opportunity to restore forests where we can, or continue bad forestry habits like clear-cutting. Shrugging our shoulders at what was done in the south means it's more likely that it will happen other places, like Canada where it's happening right now.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:01 PM
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6. Yes, but one must be patient with some species
Patience seems is short supply around here of late.

And the lives of meadows and forests do evolve. Those two systems move about, in their own time.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:02 PM
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8. In many places
With good soils, they are renewable. They are less renewable in areas with poor soils.
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:05 PM
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9. Depends
there are many factors involved. Not all trees are alike nor are all methods of harvesting. Your impression has excluded numerous variables.

For the most part you can assume all manner of tree harvesting done in the US are done in an unsustainable way. There are a few exceptions. Very few.

And then there's geologic time.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:21 PM
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10. Old Growth no. They cannot be replaced.
What we have left needs to be protected.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:44 PM
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11. This might be a stupid question
But...
When I was growing up in Ohio, for a while my dad moved to a duplex out in the rural township. Behind him, there were several acres of thick woods with decideous trees. The old man who owned the duplex said that all of that was farmland when he was young. While walking in the woods, we even found the foundations of an old barn.
At what point will that be considered "old growth"?
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