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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:39 PM
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Has any cable station pointed out on air that Crowley lied in that report
I am waiting CNN and GEM$NBC
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:40 PM
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1. Seems to me that MSMBC or someone should start a Fact Check Program.
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pinb1212 Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:41 PM
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2. So.....What exactly
did he say that was a lie?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:42 PM
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6. he said "the witness said...." and she didnt. nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:43 PM
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7. Crowley is the source of the report of two black men breaking into a house, not the 911 call.
The neighbor never mentioned the race of the people she saw.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:45 PM
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9. Crowley said he had talked to the woman who dialed 911
and she told him that two black men with backpacks were putting their shoulders to the door of the house.

911 call has witness saying one was a possible Hispanic, and that there were suitcases on the porch, and it might not be a B&E.

The discrepancy might be because Crowley interviewed someone else who was a witness but who hadn't dialed 911. Reports are that another woman had drawn the attention of the 911 caller to the situation.

Until we know for sure, I hesitate on calling Crowley a liar.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:22 PM
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18. Sgt. Crowley clearly identified the person he spoke with as...
Ms. Whalen in his official police report:

"As I reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I turned and looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified as Lucia Whalen."

Link to Sgt. Crowley's official police report:

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/Police%20report%20on%20Gates%20arrest.PDF

Ms. Whalen, through her lawyer has stated:

"Let me be clear: She never had a conversation with Sgt. Crowley at the scene," Murphy told CNN by phone. "And she never said to any police officer or to anybody 'two black men.' She never used the word 'black.' Period."

Link to CNN report:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/27/gates.arrest/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:25 PM
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21. I stand corrected
Then, in that case, Sgt. Crowley falsified his report. Thanks for the links! :hi:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:27 PM
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23. You're welcome! The fallout from this certainly is growing exponentially...
as more details come out.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:21 PM
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17. 3 lies
1) that Whalen said the suspects were black
2) that he interviewed Whalen
3) that Whalen was white
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:41 PM
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3. Probably won't hear it unless they can spin it to the President's disadvantage
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 03:41 PM by CakeGrrl
as in, "President forces lying cop and the man he arrested to kiss and make up at the White House!"

I wish I was totally kidding.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:41 PM
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4. I thought it sounded like someone on msnbc just mentioned it...
But I wasn't listening closely.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:42 PM
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5. No, probably because they would probably get the shit sued out of them for defamation if they did
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:44 PM
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8. nobody's pointing that out yet
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 03:45 PM by librechik
shocker--I may have to break out my special "insider" MSNBC number...
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:46 PM
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10. There has been no proof that Crowley lied.
Crowley has stuck with his story, which is largely corroborated by officer Figueroa and Gates himself.

All that has happened in the last two days is that Lucia Whalen has been issuing challenges to the police report through her lawyer. Lucia works for Harvard selling umbrellas and coffee cups. She's hardly above suspicion.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:16 PM
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15. Bullshit. It's obvious he never talked to her -- he gives her the wrong RACE
in his report, on top of everything else.

Seriously, stop digging. This little creep is no reflection on all cops. He owns his behavior.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:19 PM
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16. Looks like a nice day in SF, a bit cool, but nice. Kind of muggy here.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:22 PM
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19. It's overcast and a little muggy here, too. SF summer weather.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:29 PM
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24. Check out Paso Robles, 101ºF now and a low of 53ºF tonight. I'd hate both.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:23 PM
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20. fail, epic fail
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:55 PM
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11. Bring him to the
White house and have Gates water board him with beer until he confess!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:25 PM
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22. OK, that was funny...
I did actually LOL...

Thanks.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:56 PM
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12. CNN has because someone who saw it posted about it. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:09 PM
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13. Print not cable n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:15 PM
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14. Gotcha. Sorry. n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:04 AM
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25. Not nearly enough. They seem to rationalizing the cop's misconduct.
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