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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:35 PM Original message |
I'd like to apologize, right here, to Lucia Whalen |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. She wasn't the "victim" of anyone except all those who went onto message boards... |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. But it is still going on. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Villagers with pitchforks are easily led. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. The onion keeps getting peeled, |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Don't keep 'em to yourself! c'mon! this is a messageboard |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. It's right in front of everyone's nose - |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Your gratuitous self-congratulations aren't working out very well so far. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You're hung up on me - |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No, actually I'm still nursing the headache I got from your bs on this thread. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You love me - |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Projection in its purest form. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Come to me, mah leetle flower - |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Sort of |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Not at all. She reported a potential break-in. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
84. Oh, it's certainly their own fault |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. No, that's as wrong as possible. She was JIm Crowley's victim |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. That's nonsense. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. LOL. Except his fabrication about her report that went all over the press. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
79. She should be able to get his badge for this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. He did. That's just disgusting. I guess Cambridge needs a new sensitivity guy. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Also, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. You were also wrong as possible and harangued everyone else into the bargain. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Shhhh........ |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. I believe there was a neighbor who asked Ms. Whalen |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
66. the driver,. what is going on with him? have heard no word at all. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. He departed after the door was opened - |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. So then you must be talking about the officer that the female caller spoke with? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I have no idea who that is - |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. I tip my hat to you. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yea, blame Crowley for this. When in fact |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. They played the tape. She said nothing about race until prompted and then said "I don't know" that |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. And so? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. No, it wouldn't necessarily mean she was profiling. If I had meant that I would have said it. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
105. The point is, the tape proves that Crowley was lying about what she said |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Do you ever feel that you and others are being played by CNN, etc.? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Racism in America is not a distraction if it happens to you. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. You didn't know |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. How about taking a lesson from it of not accusing people of |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I'm not sure of what you're referring to |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Too all the people on DU who claimed this woman engaged in |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. She never talked to Crowley |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. She did talk to Crowley. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Incorrect |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. They did talk, according to the same Murphy's quote published by NYT. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Possible I suppose |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. You mean, like not accusing the racist cop that dragged race into his report |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. More like accusing a person of racial profiling because she called in a |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. You mean, because Jim Crowley made it look as if she called in a report |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Crowley's report says nothing regarding what she told 911. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. And that's the spin his people tried to put on it last night, isn't it? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Distrust authority... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Why would they? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Well, it certainly wasn't ever anything I was taught... n/t |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Distrust mob mentality goes a long way too. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. When you're ready to give it up, let us know. n/t |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. What do you mean? I respect you and am interested to know. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Quite true |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. What does this have to do with mob mentality? |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. It has to do with mob mentality in the sense that people came onto message boards... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Sorry I misunderstood your previous post... |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Me too. I'm glad I didn't either. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
27. Thank you! |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. I accused her of being a Gladys Kravitz |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. She looked like that because that's how Jim Crowley framed her in his report. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. No she didn't. |
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jmondine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. I also owe her the same apology |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. the only thing i said about her was how could she say they were backpacks when 3 suitcases.... |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. No he didn't ignore. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. he lied gwen. that is what this op is about, the witness. he lied about the statement |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Okay, as you wish. That's how you see it; |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
102. of course you will |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
58. maybe you're wrong about Crowley too |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
90. I fully expect to make mistakes about many things in my life |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. I owe her the same apology. Thank you for this opportunity. nt |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
61. Wouldn't that make you... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. No, that would make Ken Burch honest unlike Sergeant Jim Crow |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. "Sgt. Jim Crow" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Wow. How pathetic is that. Unfortunately, racists and bigots |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. You're a bigot too...even tho you don't want to say so. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. It's not bigotry to call out racism, Gwen, although it probably is to defend it. n/t |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Pathetic indeed. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You have access to the many posts that I put up going through the material. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. My post was not meant as such... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You haven't read all of my posts. You haven't read all the comments |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. None of your posts I've read on this... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #91 |
96. The thing is, DU is big and we really don't do everything at the same time |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. A vision of clarity |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Oh, yeah. A vision of clarity that still denies that introducing two fictional black men |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. There you are again, mah leeetle sweetheart - |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. And when confronted with an argument, you reply with gibberish. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I speak to you the language of Internet(s) tubes love, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Get a chat room, you two.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I'll pass, thanks. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.............. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
67. I never once thought of her in any way other than the lady who called |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
69. I apologize to her too. In threads last week, I questioned her call to the police, and asked how |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It really is amazing. |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. No, when the police dispatch asked her, she said she couldn't identify the race. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. And that makes it good? But if she could identify the race, that |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:40 AM Response to Reply #74 |
101. No, my "she did good" was because she wasn't thinking through race-colored lenses when she made the |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
70. Yes, and Jim Crow-ley was the reason she was mischaracterized. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
99. I never really understood what she was getting slammed for anyway. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
100. By the way according to that same Wendy, Lucia |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
103. K&R |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
104. Reasonable people can form opinions based on insufficient information. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. ... |
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