Hawaii again cofirms Obama's birth certificate to be real

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/barack-obama-birth-certificate

HONOLULU — State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

So-called "birthers" – who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States – have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.

declares gravity to be fake ...

Saw it here at DU.

I posted the link that someone sent me.

Sheesh.

Like the rest of my family, it's impossible to talk to him.

but mostly they try to be fair, even when they don't succeed (I still think Dubya was waving to Stevie Wonder!) :P

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if the 'real' birth certificate was produced. The certificate of live birth is not the same as the 'regular' certificate, if I understand correctly, which is why the rumors continue.

Even McCain may not have been eligible for POTUS, given his birth in the Panana Canal Zone. I know that a person is considered an American even if born in certain places like PR, Guam, but I am not sure about Panama!

they refuse to show it, the more it creates the suspicion that he wasn't born here. And the whole thing in the newspaper doesn't mean much at all, especially since those blurbs are sometimes printed well after the birth.

The one in my safety deposit box is all that's required for legal purposes, such as running for office.

'60s, too!

Geez! There should be a copy with the state of HI. End of story, produce the other certificate, or prepare for more of the same::tinfoilhat:

He was born in San Diego. He has pictures of the hospital he was born in, and pictures of the houses he grew up in. All in San Diego.

He's a 100% Natural born US citizen to two parents who were also both natural born. About as authentic as you can get.

However, his parents lost his birth certificate during a move.

When he got drafted into the Army, he had to produce his birth certificate. He couldn't. He had to get a replacement, which ended up being a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the State of California, in the 1960s.

So, are you trying to tell me that my father isn't a 100% natural born US citizen because he no longer has his original, and was issued a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the State of California?

This "Certificate of Live Birth" was good enough for the federal government when he applied for a security clearance as part of his government job in the 1980s.

so producing the other shouldn't be such a big deal. It doesn't sound far-fetched to me that he could be born in Indonesia, given the events of his early life. I don't much care where a person comes into the world if they are committed to the USA's best interests, but I guess it's a technicality and a possible cover up that could easily be shut down by a single piece of paper that no one has said was ever lost.

and repeat it enough times that everyone has to start talking about it. There is no document that would shut these nutcases up. Produce one and they'll claim that was faked.

It is absolute idiocy for the entire country to keep playing this stupid game with a group of fringe nutcases.

mother entering the country with an infant. There isn't.

Just face it, he was born in Hawaii. All evidence shows this.

If you choose not to believe the evidence, that's up to you, but it doesn't make it any less verified.

Really, I am so tired of this, but it's not going away until they either produce that document or say that it's lost. I will continue to go on with my life.

Why would a person have TWO copies of their birth certificate?

My father wouldn't have needed a "Certificate of Live Birth" if he had his original.

They're already produced the only document they need to produce to satisfy Constitutional and legal requirements. Then the birthers "moved the goalposts" and will continue that logical fallacy until hell freezes over.

of the right think? They are racists who will accept nothing that proves a black man has a right to be president in this country. Let them rant, the more they do the more insane they appear and just maybe they'll take blabbermouths like Limbaugh down with them.

Since it is a fact that Obama was born in the US and that the proof exists, letting them step ever deeper into the mud with their wild conspiracies is the best way to deal with them.

Rational people don't need to be convinced, they look at the facts and are satisfied. Loonies like these morons are best observed from afar, for entertainment purposes only.

Speaking of entertainment, their latest fantasy, seen on the Freeper site, was to start a revolution against the government (led by the author of the 'declaration' himself, Jimrob head of all freepers) and remove Obama and Biden (I think the logic was that he is not legitimate either) and install Hillary (can they be any more hilarious than this) as President. They somehow came to the conclusion that while the president and vp were illegitimate (since Obama is not an American) his entire administration has to go ~ except for Hillary! Don't ask why the sudden love affair between Freepers and Hillary, or why she too is not illegitimate being that Obama appointed her, but, that's what I mean by 'for entertainment purposes only'. And they were serious!

Now explain why anyone should bother wasting any time to try to prove anything to such a bunch of delusional nutcases?

...or any of the half-dozen other documents people asking for.

The legal "document of record" is the one that has already been produced.

Read what it actually says...

I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen

It is my understanding that this "vital record" may consist of microfiche or imaged copies of the original with an intact chain of evidence. Hence, there's nothing to wave around.

Now take your birther crap someplace else.

I am tired of this shite and I am sorry but you CAN copy microFISH (as I like to call it, LOL). Let's do it and stop the madness.

They're engaged in the logical fallacy of "moving the goalposts".

This is without a doubt the dumbest conspiracy theory ever. I am stunned that DUers are buying into it. Stunned.

You *do* have to be a natural-born citizen to be President.

The legal requirement of "birth certificate" has been fulfilled, the goalposts were moved, the conspiracy lives on.

What can you do?

Where is the birth certificate for Hawaii???!!!

Hawaii only became a state a conviently short time before Obama was born. Surely his mom and dad are all over documents pertaining to the statehood of hawaii because we know it was as important for their son to be born in the US STATE of Hawaii as it was for Sarah Palin's son to be born in Alaska.

It's all part of end times. If you have to ask, you'll never know.


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These people need to be kept away from the general population...


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Why aren't these loons clamoring to see his birth certificate?

I mean, if we want to take this silly argument to an extreme...

they discovered it didn't list him as CAUCASION.

When the documents are not produced, the accusations will continue. They have seen the state-produced certified certificate many times and they have declared it invalid. So, if this is the defense: "I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.", and yet no copies of the "original vital records" are produced, a stubborn racist asshat playing the birther card will have no reason to drop the bone they are chewing on.

Without the publication of the original vital records, this ain't going away. Don't pretend to not know how the extreme right wing operates.

then John McCain was not eligible to run for president since he was born "outside of the United States" in Panama and therefore that makes him "Panamanian" and not an American.


Geez I tell ya these idiot birthers are just that... idiots:dunce:

is that he STOLE THE IDENTITY of some poor Hawaiian.

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HMMMMMM?????? :crazy:

There has been a secret group keeping this secret for nearly 50 years now, and killing anyone getting close to knowing the truth. It's obvious people. Obama is the anti-christ and he will usher in the end of the earth by fire. It has all been pre-ordained.