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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:26 AM
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My reasons for wanting to remove the Troops from Iraq is for the Iraqi not just us Americans
My big concern is with what we are doing to the people who had done us no harm whatsoever especially the young children. How dare bush* and cheney* do this to them and with our congress critter's help. Not to mention the M&M, there are so many reporters complicit in this illegal war and they should face the consequences for that. Without them bush*/cheney* could not have done this in the first place.

Bring the troops home
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:29 AM
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1. You do realize there is going to be even greater deaths of children when we leave, right?
Are you somehow not in touch with reality? Don't you think leaving without expecting any type of violence a little bit of a rosy scenario?

I recognize that whenever we leave there will be a horrible tragedy, but unfortunately this is not a situation we can really do anything to end.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:33 AM
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3. This is the same shit i was hearing about leaving Vietnam
and it was wrong then as it is now. sorry
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:44 AM
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7. VietNam has a vastly different culture.
I am strongly in favor of leaving, but not because I think anything good will happen for the Iraqis. There are three distinct tribes in that nation and they will kill each other until somebody strong enough stops it. It will not be us. We could have come in at Saddam's natural death and played honest broker and walked away with the store, but we jumped the gun. Now we are hated more than Saddam.

Maybe a strongman will emerge from their own ranks. Maybe China will deal its way in. We don't know. It no longer matters to us.

Many more Iraqis will die whether we stay or go. There is not, however, ANY possibility of the death coming to an end UNLESS we go.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:50 AM
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9. its not a cultural thing its peoples lives.
I don't buy the 'its different because of the cultures' one bit either. sorry
by our leaving will save lives and you can take that to the bank too.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:31 AM
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2. Thank you.
So much suffering on such a scale.. how long can it go on..
as if it ever should have.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:35 AM
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4. Yes, leaving our troops there is only causing more death and destruction
both young and old
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:39 AM
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5. We would be out in 30 days if they did this
Have a value added WAR TAX. That means everybody from age 18 and up would pay 2% of their gross earning each and every month, this would include Corporations, we could come home faster than a bunch of grunts on a three day pass to Vung Tau
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:47 AM
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8. you got it
Americans for the most part aren't feeling any or very little pain and that is by design, one of the lessons they, the chickenhawks, learned from the Vietnam war, keep it seperated from the everyday joe's everyday life. thats what the flying the dead in in the middle of the night with no cameras is all about. The lessons they learned were the wrong lessons for making peace it was lessons for how to make war, to cause death and destruction, to further their cause which is world domination using energy as a tool in that endeavor.

Just bring the kids home now
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:41 AM
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6. Actually for the whole middle east.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:52 AM
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10. Yes the whole middle east
America will never fully regain our standing in the world because of this, never ever.
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