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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:26 AM
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The Sleuth (WaPo): A Birth Certificate By Any Other Name
By Mary Ann Akers | July 31, 2009; 4:15 PM ET

It seems nothing will deter the conspiracy theorists known as birthers, who have become the bane of the Republican Party's existence with their (dare we say wacky) claim that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and, therefore, is not a natural born citizen.

<snip>

They're also fixated on the type of birth document issued by the Hawaiian government, which is called a "certification of live birth." They refuse for some reason to believe that a certification is the same as a birth certificate.

<snip>

But still, the birthers ask, why won't President Obama release his original birth certificate and possibly bury the issue once and for all?

The Wall Street Journal has an excellent answer to this question: "Why should he? The demand has no basis in principle and would have no practical benefit."

James Taranto writes in his "Best of the Web" column, "Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:30 AM
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1. dupe
Edited on Sat Aug-01-09 01:30 AM by Why Syzygy
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:30 AM
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2. And how many times have the birther cases been thrown out of court so far?
They were trying to go to the SCOTUS!! It won't even make it to one day of hearing!
Courts REQUIRE evidence.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:41 AM
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3. But nutjobs only believe the evidence inside their heads.
so it doesn't matter how much physical evidence there is.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:46 AM
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4. This reader has it all figured out:
Edited on Sat Aug-01-09 02:44 AM by Contrary1
"why does everybody keep saying that obama is a blace president, when he has a white mother and is a muslim, in my opion he is just as much white as he is black and he is definetly a muslim. remember his full name 'HUSSEn" just like huduem hussen. i am not prediduce, if he was any other black person in high office and had got elected president it would be just as proud as to have a black president as a white president. but the truth is the truth, the musslems have been wanting to take over our country and what better way than for us to elect a muslem as president. there are a lots of black men and women that i think would make a good president, condelessa rice is one of them. and several men i have seen as senators or rep. i think that he should be honest enought to produce his original birth certificate. it is very easy to fake any documents to day."

Posted by: cjohnson7777charternet | July 31, 2009 5:41 PM


I'm thinking these days that GOP stands for "Gone off Prozac".

:rofl:
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:01 AM
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9. When someone writes 'in my opion'
My regard for their opinion just fell into the toilet.

Very funny.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:09 AM
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11. the truth is the truth
Unless you are a Freepturd, then the truth means what you want it to mean.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:47 AM
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5. And even if he was born in, say, the Panama Canal Zone, he'd still be a U.S. citizen.
His mother was a citizen, so he's a citizen.

Frackin' birthers are brain dead.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:25 AM
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6. The issue isn't the US citizen thing, its the natural born citizen specified in the
constitution.

That being said, its obvious Barack Obama is a natural born citizen anyway.

Loony birthers...
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:34 AM
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7. BEST part of this whole thing
From the WSJ piece referenced in your article:

The birthers are likely to be with us for as long as Obama is president--and because of them, it is more likely that this will be for the next 7½ rather than just 3½ years.

I'm rec'ing just because of this one sentence!! :headbang:
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:44 AM
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8. Just when we lose Sarah, here come the birthers.
:rofl:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:04 AM
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10. Recommend
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:10 AM
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12. Obama wasn't born, he descended from heaven
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 04:44 PM
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13. black men who wish to run for president must pass a newly devised republican "poll test". n/t
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