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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:05 AM Original message |
Alternet plagiarism |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. Post the Alternet link, please? nt |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The link |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Where's the link to your essay? n/t |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Alternet linked to my site but not the essay itself |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Oh, okay, thank you. n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Contact the site adminstrators and explain. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I did. We'll see what happens. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Want to be really infuriated? See who else is plagiarising you: |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Aiiieee! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I'd ask them where the goddamn CHECK is, too. Your talent has VALUE. They stole from you. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Copied and pasted with citation (wrong first name, but with a name) |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Wow, you're charitable. So, if I "copy and paste" an entire work by |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. It's a common misunderstanding, at least in the Internet age |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. But they not only credited someone else with your last name, they COPYRIGHTED "your" stuff. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I doubt if they have a pile of money |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. i wouldn't be so sure. besides the foundation grants, some rather wealthy people |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Hmm. Interesting points. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. you're not the first to have their content stolen. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. The big leftwing blogs need to get on this |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Especially since they now have copyright & syndication rights on your material & can sell it, unless |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I was not defending it. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You'd think they'd PAY if they weren't being thieves about it. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I can see we're just miles apart on this. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I know. Oh well...! I just hate it when people steal from the Little Guy. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. If it's on his site & it's his work, it's under copyright, whether that's explicitly noted or not. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Well, you're clearly the expert on fair use - |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. there's no definition of fair use under which one can publish someone else's entire article without |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. sure, alternet doesn't understand fair use. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Then they really have no excuse for having done this, do they? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. my point exactly. responding to #13. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. My apologies |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Fair Use is a complicated (overly so, imo) set of 'rules' |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. they knew what they were doing. copying an article w/o permission is in no one's definition of fair |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. So you started with excuses |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I don't know what you're reading, but it isn't my post. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I did mention that in my message to them |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. they put your web link right on there - they just got your name wrong - no plagiarism... |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It's more than getting my name wrong |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. They've apparently confused you with the well-known Canadian journalist, |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. David, there is nothing that I can see either on your website |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I probably need a copyright statement on my site |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. No, it should be necessary, but it's probably not a bad idea. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. "© 2009 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved." ... They sure assert THEIR rights, though |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. What BALLS!!!! They need some serious correcting, the rip-off artists. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Gee, I hope they don't sue me! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. They get syndication rights for everything they publish. So they'll attempt to resell his content |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. he didn't give permission to have his ENTIRE WORK published, for free, by alternet. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. Let's all go there and point the finger at them, then!! YOU!!! BAD!!!!! nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. Have you contacted them and advised them? |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes, I have. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Let us know how it shakes out. This is just wrong, what they've done to you. NT |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. They don't make contacting them easy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. go post at the alternet & new cafe chat sites. a lot of the posters seem to know the people who |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Great idea |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. I'd recommend a certified letter |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. According to their WHOIS |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. I fell for it & posted it in the Labor Forum |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. "Narco News publisher Al Giordano is pulling out of Alternet, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
54. your article is now all over the net: under the name of jeffrey. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I would also contact the realJeffrey Dvorkin |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I e-mailed him earlier today |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. please keep us updated |
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BirminghamExaminer (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Maybe it's time to call your lawyer. n/t |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
65. They never contacted you? |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Correct |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
66. Kick |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
67. K&R - Keep us updated, looking forward to the out come of this. |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
68. Update - Sunday morning, 8/2 - problem resolved |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. congrats on the resolution. keep an eye out for reprints (they make $ from reselling the work, & |
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Thanks for the warning. |
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