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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:30 AM
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Interesting....the bill to audit the Fed ALMOST has a veto-proof majority
Edited on Sat Aug-01-09 11:34 AM by FLAprogressive
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1207

HR 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 has 282 co-sponsors in the House, 8 short of a veto proof majority.....some of the notable co-sponsors are progressive Heroes like Dennis Kucinich, Lynn Woolsey, Pete Stark, Alan Grayson, Peter DeFazio, Marcy Kaptur, and Raul Grijalva. If they're supporting it I think we know it's a good bill.....(even though all House Repugs support it -- they may actually have something right for once)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-604

The Senate version, the Federal Reserve Sunshine Act, is sponsored by Bernie Sanders and has support from Russ Feingold, Ben Cardin, and Tom Harkin.

I think it's time for some real change to our financial system.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:34 AM
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1. Begs the question , is this something Obama would Veto?
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:35 AM
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3. Probably. Bernanke and Geithner definitely don't want their dirty dealings revealed.
Edited on Sat Aug-01-09 11:35 AM by FLAprogressive
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:34 AM
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2. Good. It is time to let some fresh air in. The fumes from the
Fed are noxious. And I suspect we won't need the veto-proof part (although it would be nice).
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:39 AM
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6. I have a feeling the leadership doesn't want it to see a vote. I think 290 FORCES a vote. Correct me
if I'm wrong.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:41 PM
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18. It takes 218 signatures for a discharge petition
to force a bill to the floor.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:58 PM
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19. what are they waiting for?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:43 PM
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21. Leadership harshly opposes discharge petitions.
Edited on Sat Aug-01-09 02:43 PM by tritsofme
They are generally a tool of the minority.

It is to be used only as a last resort when a bill will not move out of committee.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:36 AM
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4. so as law stands now, the fed CANNOT be audited? seems odd.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:37 AM
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5. The Federal Reserve, as it stands now, is about as "Federal" as Federal Express.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:40 AM
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7. Now that would be revolutionary !
and would be a good sign.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:42 AM
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8. Recommend
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:53 AM
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9. Excellent! K & R nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:57 AM
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10. K&R. It is far past time for this to be done.
The very fact that it is currently illegal to audit the very source of control over the nation's money supply is sure indication that it was designed as a means to steal for the people.


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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 12:05 PM
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11. Such A Bill Certainly Ought To Be Passed, Sir
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 12:07 PM
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12. K&R!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 12:11 PM
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13. Not a good move. The Federal Reserve should not be subjected to politics

And that is exactly where this leads.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 12:40 PM
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14. So do you think they should be able to conduct everything in secret like they do now?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:33 PM
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16. Yes.

Exactly how much information from the Federal Reserve do you want in the congressional record?
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:36 PM
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17. A hell of a lot more than we have now.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:16 PM
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20. You are part of what's wrong with the US. You like secrecy and ignorance.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:09 PM
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24. They don't mind that some outside group is controlling the economy....just as long as they can have
their flatscreen TVs!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:03 PM
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23. I don't find them that secretive
But I agree with RBTexLA that populism and monetary policy do not mix, and would much prefer to keep an independent central bank. such a thing isn't in the constitution, but neither are many other functions we now consider appropriate for government - such as education and healthcare for example.

When a central bank or control of the money supply (the prime function of a CB) is in the hands of politicians, then monetary policy starts to be influenced by electoral cycles and too much political power is concentrated in too few hands. This might seem odd considering how much power is gathered at the Fed, but the Fed chairman or the individual bank governors don't involve themselves in fiscal policy. Fiscal policy and monetary policy are two very different things, but not many people seem to make that distinction.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:09 PM
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25. As if they aren't already subject to politics.
Pay attention.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 01:11 PM
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15. Is there a reason why the greatest page shows two more recs for this thread
then the thread does? I don't mind of course. :)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 02:51 PM
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22. Looks like the Fed may have to get an emergency delivery of shredders and lawyers.
Not to mention making sure their insurance covers valium ordered by the pound.
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