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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:32 PM
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U.S. Proposed Federal Discretionary Budget for FY 2008- Stunning Pie Chart
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:35 PM
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1. How much does Halliburton get?
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:38 PM
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4. I find that chart to be pretty astonishing
Add the Vets benefits and some of the international affairs into it and the Military piece gets even bigger. And this doesn't even include black budget off-the-books programs.

I've known the figure for quite some time but it just leaves you shaking your head to see it so starkly.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:35 PM
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2. The Beast: "FEEED MEEEE!!"
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:37 PM
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3. I would like to see who gets that 59% pie chart
and see who is making what off this war....
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:44 PM
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6. Here's a look at worldwide spending


I suspect the data you are looking at is out there but so much of it would be difficult to actually pin down as there is record amounts of corruption in Military spending at present. It's always been bad but right now Dick Cheney has a corrupt machine in place that makes past military corruption look like kids stuff.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:27 PM
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17. Thanks for that info....
:hi:
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:41 PM
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How much money in total? nt
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:55 PM
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12. Resources and info
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 04:56 PM by Jcrowley


Total Outlays (Federal Funds): $2,387 billion
MILITARY: 51% and $1,228 billion
NON-MILITARY: 49% and $1,159 billion



HOW THESE FIGURES WERE DETERMINED

Current military” includes Dept. of Defense ($585 billion), the military portion from other departments ($122 billion), and an unbudgetted estimate of supplemental appropriations ($20 billion). “Past military” represents veterans’ benefits plus 80% of the interest on the debt.*

The Government Deception

These figures are from an analysis of detailed tables in the “Analytical Perspectives” book of the Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 2008.

Go here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/index.html


The figures are federal funds, which do not include trust funds — such as Social Security — that are raised and spent separately from income taxes. What you pay (or don’t pay) by April 17, 2007, goes to the federal funds portion of the budget. The government practice of combining trust and federal funds began during the Vietnam War, thus making the human needs portion of the budget seem larger and the military portion smaller.

The Government Deception

The pie chart below is the government view of the budget. This is a distortion of how our income tax dollars are spent because it includes Trust Funds (e.g., Social Security), and the expenses of past military spending are not distinguished from nonmilitary spending. For a more accurate representation of how your Federal income tax dollar is really spent, see the large chart (top).


Source:Washington Post , Feb. 6, 2007,
from Office of Management and Budget

http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

Here's a good resource:


http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=107

And go here:
http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=285
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:35 AM
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24. Thanks for posting this. nt
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:41 PM
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5. What is Income Security?
It is only 5%, but I wonder whose income is being secured?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:47 PM
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8. I believe that would be unemployment insurance...
It sounds like it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:45 PM
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7. None of you know when that Vietnamese armada is going to show
up on your shores. Don't ferget that!
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:48 PM
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9. "Discretionary" meaning without Social Security, Medicare
and a few other programs, right? The entitlements are not "discretionary".

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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:08 PM
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16. Freedom isn't free in the...




The median income family in the United States paid $3,736 in federal income taxes in 2006 . Here is how that amount was spent:
Military $1,014
Interest on the Debt (Military) $340
Interest on the Debt (Non-Military) $385
Health $779
Income Security $224
Education $169
Veterans' Benefits $125
Nutrition $98
Housing $70
Natural Resources $57
Job Training $11
Other $463

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=285
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:48 PM
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10. Defense! What funcking joke. The only think we're defending is
PNAC ideals and easy access to the dwindling oil supply. That's what we're defending.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:55 PM
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11. K&R.nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:57 PM
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13. Foolish madmen. They spend more than the entire world on war machines.
But I guess when you have an empire built on neo-mercantilism, you need vast amounts of resources devoted to war.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:07 PM
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14. Says it all, doesn't it?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:08 PM
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15. It's like the eighties all over again!
:(
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:32 AM
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25. I was thinking the same thing
Reminded me of Ronnie's days of making old folks eat dog food so he could build up his war machine against the Commies. :eyes:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:28 PM
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18. What's other?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:37 PM
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19. A picture of this pie chart should be tacked to every utility pole in the U.S.A.
Hell, it should be on billboards and painted on trucks.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:05 PM
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20. Purple Pac-man has his mouth open wide, to devour all. nt
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:05 PM
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21. K&R and bookmarked - Thanks! n/t
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:40 AM
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22. Kick
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:52 AM
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23. anybody know what this pie chart looked like in 1944? n/t
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Man_in_the_Moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:43 AM
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28. in 1944
Federal budget was approx 45% of GDP

War budget was 40% of GDP

Give or take a couple of points.

To put it in perspective, today's defense budget is 3.5-4% of GDP.

We would have to have a defense budget of 5+ trillion (with a 'T') a year to be equal to 1944.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:59 AM
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26. Bookmarked and kicked -
wish I could rec but got in a little late. Wow, just... DAMN. Our current troops and our Vets need bucks, so these assholes spend it on what? New subs and planes that won't get used because we don't have the frickin' money, or alternative fuels, to use them?

Sure. No money for education (kids, all you have to do is press this little picture of the fries), No money for health care (hope you've had a tetanus shot lately, cuz we ran out, cuz Big Pharma doesn't like to give anything away except big bucks to "retiring" CEO's...............

Don't have to worry about funding Justice, we fire'd them all anyway. Transportation? Hell, where's your Caddie?

Environment? We don't need no stinkin' environment, Use those fuuds to ejjikate our populace on Creation Science! And Abstinence (or something like it, where only your daddies get to play) - and oh! oh! oh! Because they're pregnant (no prenatal health care, of course) we gots PLENTY of cannon fodder.

I am seriously sick about this. :puke:

Even our nationally-recognized Big Media is owned lock, stock and barrel by the Repukes - and people know it - and their own party is eating itself up from within...............

So where do we go from here?
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:38 AM
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27. Left out interest payments on the National Debt... the biggest
single item...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:11 PM
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29. "Money trumps peace, sometimes" kick
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