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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:41 PM
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Jobless NYC woman sues college for $70K in tuition
(08-02) 17:42 PDT New York (AP) --

A New York City woman who says she can't find a job is suing the college where she earned a bachelor's degree.
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Trina Thompson filed a lawsuit last week against Monroe College in Bronx Supreme Court. The 27-year-old is seeking the $70,000 she spent on tuition.

Thompson says she's been unable to find gainful employment since she received her information technology degree in April.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/02/national/a173420D51.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0N5VQIJyy
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:44 PM
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1. Good move -
I'm sure employers are looking for creative whiners without a clue.

Nothing like publicity.

Wanna bet she gets a job?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:44 PM
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2. If the college advertised that it would provide career advice, and hasn't...
...then she probably has a case.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:45 PM
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3. Getting a degree doesn't guarantee a job
I know times are desperate, but things like this are silly.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:46 PM
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6. Getting her name in the paper attached to this lawsuit won't help. And she's only 3 months out of
school. Keep looking.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:41 AM
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22. I think it would depend. Some of those programs advertise themselves
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 02:41 AM by pnwmom
fraudulently, promising jobs and career help that don't exist.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:45 PM
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4. its been tried before with no success
if all of us with useless degrees could sue and win... but courts don't look too kindly on this strategy
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:45 PM
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5. Well this will really improve her odds of getting a job. Who DOESN'T hire lawsuit happy nuts?
Good grief.

:eyes:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:46 PM
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7. +1
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:46 PM
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8. did the College tell her she was gauranteed a job after graduating ?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:48 PM
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9. "She says the Bronx school's Office of Career Advancement hasn't provided her with the leads and
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:30 AM
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23. I bet they gave her the best employment advice, which was to not sue the school.
I have a feeling she is very bad at taking good advice.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:50 PM
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10. I don't think " not trying hard enough" is an actionable complaint.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/College-Grad-Cant-Find-Job-Wants--Back-52304162.html

....."They have not tried hard enough to help me," the beleaguered Bronx resident wrote in her lawsuit, filed July 24 in Bronx Supreme Court.

Thompson's mother is proud of her daughter for completing her college education, but acknowledges Trina is upset that all her high hopes haven't panned out.

The mother and daughter live together, but Trina's mother, Carol, is a substitute teacher and the only one of the two who makes any money. They're barely scraping enough together to get by, reports the Post.

On top of her unemployment woes, Trina now faces mounting debt from student loans....
Monroe defends its career-advice programs and is adamant that its staff assists young professionals in their careers.

"The lawsuit is completely without merit," school spokesman Gary Axelbank told the Post. "The college prides itself on the excellent career-development support that we provide to each of our students, and this case does not deserve further consideration. . . .
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:50 PM
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11. I guess she didn't read the fine print when she enrolled in college
What a tool.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:51 PM
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12. my first reaction is that this is pretty funny.
wouldn't we all like to sue because we didn't get the job we wanted/thought we'd land after getting our b.a.?

colleges will go out of business.

somehow i suspect she doesn't really have a case here. HOWEVER, maybe if she went back to school for her masters she'd have better luck?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:59 PM
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13. I haven't sued my law school yet.
Although their career office attempted to help me.

One interview in two years of looking for a legal asst. job, with a Juris Doctor.

Graduated 25 years ago -- I think the statute of limitations has run anyway.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:01 PM
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14. so did you work as a legal asst or anywhere else in the field after graduating
or did you do something else and are just now looking to get work in that area ?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:13 PM
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16. I was a court reporter.
And went to law school at night for five years.

Then I stopped court reporting because I got burned out from the stress.

Then I looked for a legal assistant job. But no, I have not had a job where I was technically using my law degree.

I say "technically" because the state court reporters board did not understand why a B.A. in biology and a J.D. would make me a better court reporter. That is because they are idiots and don't want court reports to get a good education. They seem to be threatened by a court reporter with a B.A. in biology and a J.D. I wrote them a letter saying I wanted to use my college and grad school to count in lieu of continuing education credits. They wanted me to tell them how every course in college and every course in law school would be relevant to taking down courtroom trials.

I told them I didn't want any part of their chickenshit continuing education rules, and I let my court reporting license lapse.

:wtf:
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:08 PM
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15. Monroe is one of those sleazy, for-profit
schools that advertise on the subway. I feel bad that people shell out tens of thousands to these places for a dubious education and a degree that might not even be accepted by other schools, employers, etc.

How would you like to apply to a master's program and find out you don't even have a bachelor's degree in the eyes of the admissions officers?

People would be so much better off if they went to a community college instead of these degree mills that promise them a job in "office technology" or whatever.

That said, I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell of getting her money back.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:18 PM
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17. then maybe she actually has a case here ?
they got her to spend millions to go there and told her they would get her a job right away. she didn't apply as most people do for real colleges.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:30 PM
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18. There are lots of those ripoff schools around.
The Art Institute of Houston (part of the chain that advertises heavily) got sued by >200 graduates who said they did not get the jobs they were promised, or led to believe that their career office would help them get.

Unfortunately, none of the plaintiffs could get anywhere near the amount of money they spent in tuition, in the settlement.



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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:50 PM
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19. Don't get me started on those "people".
Leeches would be a better term.
I worked for them at an Ai for about 2 years. The general ED classes were a joke and the technical education could have been replicated at a state school for about 1/4 of the price.

One of the last straws was hearing a admissions person saying "Can your parents co-sign? OK, how about your grandmother." 70 grand a year for a degree anyone in the computer graphics industry will look at and snort and this asshole was telling a kid he'd be able to pay it back so it wouldn't matter if his grandmother co-signed the loan.

Damn good day when I walked out of that job.

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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:12 AM
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21. These schools are like the subprime industry.
They exploit down-and-out people who have no education or prospects, who are only looking for a piece of the American dream. They sell them on this great future, and get them to borrow as much as possible using both government and private loans. Once they have milked the students for all they can get, they spit them back out into the world with a worthless diploma and a mountain of debt, with prospects as bleak as they were before.

It's disgusting.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:36 PM
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25. In Los Angeles, one advertises on TV with 2 Latino brothers. Big Bro got his degree and good job,
Now little bro is getting his degree as an "IT professional". Ads on the back of buses feature an african American woman and a Latino Man in their medical scrubs. Very exploitive, trying to suck people of color into their scam
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:59 PM
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20. Poor woman would have been better off at a community college
I feel for her.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 05:57 AM
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24. This should be thrown out of court....
ridiculous.
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