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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:01 AM
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Now that the GOP is imploding, guess how they're explaining it away?
From the Los Angeles Times
Opinion
The (political) party is over
The parties once served a purpose, but they have degenerated into a system that discourages independent thought and undermines representative government.
By Mickey Edwards
August 2, 2009
When I testified before the House Judiciary Committee against President Bush's unconstitutional use of presidential signing statements (the Constitution allows a president two choices: sign a bill and make it federal law or veto it; ignoring it is not an option), not a single Republican on the committee saw anything wrong with what the president had done. They later found the same practice unlawful when a Democratic president did it. When the House voted to hold White House staffers in contempt for defying a congressional subpoena, Republicans stomped out in protest.

At the time, I saw those incidents as signs that my fellow conservatives had abandoned their principles. But it was more than that: It was one more example of members of Congress voting as a team. Surely, when Bush's assistants defied congressional subpoenas, at least a few Democrats might have thought a president's claims of executive privilege had some merit, and a few Republicans might have been appalled at a chief executive thumbing his nose at the lawmaking branch of government. But again, that's not the world we live in.

(...)

Political theorist Bernard Crick wrote that "politics is how a free people govern themselves." Strong political parties, on the other hand, are how a free people lose that ability. Parties choose which candidates can be on the November ballot, and do so in primaries and conventions that cater to the extremes. Parties reward fealty and discourage independence. In an earlier time, before the Internet, when it was hard to get information about candidates and they had to depend on party support for campaign funds and volunteers, political parties made sense; today, they are passe, black-and-white television, remnants of a time that has passed.

A former member of the Republican leadership in Congress, Mickey Edwards is a vice president of the Aspen Institute and is working on a book about how political parties are undermining democracy.


--Los Angeles Times


Oh, and to top it all off, he's selling a book. How Libertarian of him!

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:09 AM
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1. As we increasingly rail against the lack of representation from either party
He might have a point in there somewhere.

We elect change, but nothing really changes.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:38 AM
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3. His point is he's selling a book on why it no longer matters that his party no longer matters. n/t
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:30 AM
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2. As always, the proof is in the pudding. I think there's a difference between Dems and Repubs.
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 12:31 AM by pinto
I don't buy the "they're all the same" argument. Six or so months into a Democratic administration, it has already offered some results on federal environmental standards, labor standards, taxation standards, oversight authorities, etc.

Progress in these areas may not make the cable news cycle or discussion here, yet they are happening.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:42 AM
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5. I must agree. As much as I moan about the lack of spine among dems
in congress, they are a different breed from the gopers. The dems are actually doing something positive - the gop has not done anything positive since Neut Gingrich was speaker, and not very much before that.

The dems seem honestly concerned with the well being of the USA - the publicans certainly are not, as long as the president ain't black and poor people stay poor, all is well to them.
The current dems in congress may be second rate, but the gopers are not even on the scale they are so bad.
mark
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 12:45 AM
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4. delete. nt
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 12:49 AM by napoleon_in_rags
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:48 AM
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6. I can't see anyone coming close now, but always remember
the GOP thought they were going to be in power permanently when they elected W. They were saying the same things about the Dems then that we say about the GOPers now.....we have to organise and get out the voters just like it was the first time.

We did it once, we will have to do it again - starting soon.


mark
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:52 AM
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7. No differnce between D's and R's?
Big difference between herding sheep and herding cats!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 05:08 AM
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8. The GOP only seem to have a few arguments/solutions for everything.
There's no difference between the two major political parties and tax cuts for the rich will save the country.

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