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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:56 AM
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Health Care Bill? ABC 123
Can someone please think of a way to describe the basic options in "ABC, it's easier than 123" language? :shrug:


I want to scream at the television all day long.

If I didn't know better :sarcasm: it's almost as if Congress and the "MSM" want to keep us confused -- smoke and mirrors.

There must be a way that all these "options" can be in the Jackson Five language.

There are millions of American that want to support it and don't have a clue between Single Payer and all the rest.

HELP!

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:20 AM
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1. There is no "bill" yet.
It can't be explained until we know what's going to be in it, and we're just not sure yet. Lots of things are being discussed, and nothing is final.

I hear your desire to cut through the smoke. Sadly, smoke is all we have at the moment.

:dem:

-Laelth
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 01:07 PM
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2. I hear what you are saying but

I attended several gathering last weekend.

I was shocked at the lack of information regarding the Issue.

While the Congress is on vacation and we are "waiting" for the information, what is the public to do?

Do they call their Congressman? If so, what do they say they are in favor of when the final vote is taken...?

Or, are we to just let the media keep telling us that "It looks like the Blue Dogs don't want to vote for it." That is loud and clear on my television.

What is NOT clear IMO is the differences between the major options on the table.









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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:54 PM
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3. The only big options on the table, afaik ...
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 04:54 PM by Laelth
... are (1) "public option" insurance vs. no "public option" insurance (in which we all must choose to buy insurance from private insurers), (2) national insurance exchange vs. regional co-ops, and (3) employer mandate vs. no employer mandate. Those three issues are the main ones in play. In each case, the second option that I list is better for the insurance companies, i.e. blue dogs and Republicans favor the second options.

Personally, I think they all suck ... big time, and I am asking my Congressperson to vote against them all. The individual mandate (every uninsured person must buy insurance) is a poison pill, to me and my family, and it will do nothing more than turn us into criminals.

At this point, I'd rather have nothing than to have any form of the current proposals become law.

:dem:

-Laelth
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 07:53 PM
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4. Txs ~ So if we tell our Rep. to not vote for any of the options

we will then be back at square one -- correct?
Isn't that what the Pharmas and the Republicans want us to do?

I want to call my Reps and tell them the option that I prefer and how I think it could be better.

I don't want to send the message to my Reps that I don't believe in Health Care for all Americans. :shrug:



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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 08:05 PM
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5. The Republicans want Democrats to fail, no matter what we propose.
But the Republicans' backers (specifically the insurance companies) want 40 million new customers. They actually want this law to pass (with a meaningless public option), and that's probably what will happen.

I'd rather wait until 2011. We might be able to get real reform then. Our party lacks the will to pass meaningful reform at the moment. What we're considering now is little more than a big gift to the insurance industry.

:dem:

-Laelth
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