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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:16 PM
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Referendum 71 backers gather 138,000 signatures (Shame on WA signers) Anti-gay benefits
Shameful.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009588638_ref71campaign03m.html
The odds seemed almost insurmountable. In late May, a consortium of religious conservatives set out to collect enough signatures to put a referendum on the November ballot repealing the final piece of the state's domestic-partnership law that would give gay, lesbian and some senior-citizen couples the same benefits as married folks.

Gov. Chris Gregoire delayed signing the legislation as long as she could, eliminating roughly one-third of the 90 days referendum backers had to collect the 120,577 signatures needed.

Organized as Protect Marriage Washington, supporters lost even more time attempting the nearly impossible: fitting 114 pages of the bill text onto a single petition sheet — with space for a ballot title, referendum summary and 20 lines for voters to sign — and all big enough to be readable. On top of that, a group of gay-rights activists announced at the same time that they would publish online the names and addresses of all those who signed Referendum 71 petitions — a tactic referendum backers managed to temporarily block last week in federal court.

Despite it all, and working shop fronts and music festivals, church congregations and the occasional Sunday morning pulpit, referendum backers in the end turned in 137,689 signatures to the secretary of state....

The signatures are being counted over the next two weeks to determine if there are enough to qualify the referendum for the ballot.

That the campaign got even this far shocked many — particularly those in the gay community who had done little publicly to counter it, and now are left to ponder: How did they pull that off?
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:24 PM
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1. " the gay community who had done little publicly to counter it"
let the blame game begin
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Obama2012 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:33 PM
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9. And, what exactly does that mean, Howard?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:28 AM
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12. "Birthers" "tea baggers" "antigay rights haters" all coming out of the rat hole.
They have nothing to offer and everything to destroy. That's the pattern here.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:28 PM
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2. Sigh. Sorry folks. WA is a bit like IL in that way: made of Seattle...
and then a bunch of hicks.

Seattle wins most of the voting fights against the rest of the state, but not all of them.

In my own weak defense, let me say that I don't recall ever hearing about this. And I live in Capitol Hill ("the gay part of town").
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:29 PM
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3. Living in the bluest of the blue areas, there are a lot of reds also
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:34 PM
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7. Oooh - you're here too - cool!
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:31 PM
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4. exactly
i suspect those are predominantly eastern wa. residents who signed.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:34 PM
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6. And Olympia-Chehalis-Vancouver pipe, the Penninsula, north of Everett...
(excluding that lovely little oasis of reasonableness that is Bellingham).
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:33 PM
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5. dammitt....
you would have thought after the shitstorm in Calif. GBLT activists would be much more vigilant in countering a big-dollar, organized fundie nutbar campaign that starts small but gets critical mass overnight...
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:07 PM
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8. let's be sure to lay the blame where it belongs
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 10:51 PM by mitchtv
with the so called strait Xians and not with the people who are targeted by heretical goons disguised as Christians. THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF LGBT ACITVISTS. As much fault can be laid at the feet of strait "good Christians" who do nothing while the nut bags drag their congregations around by the nose. YOU KNOW. GOOD PEOPLE DOING NOTHING
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:59 AM
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10. I blame the bigots who signed the petitions,
not the people whose essential human rights seem to end up on the ballot every two years.

Frankly, I think that you approach amounts to blaming the victims rather than the perpetrators.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:25 AM
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11. it's clear they are not protecting marriage - they are about removing rights
and benefits. They work endlessly motivated by hate and fear. Blame them - not the victims of their dirty work.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 09:55 AM
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13. If people didn't think they could vote away others' civil rights, your point would be moot.
Please don't blame the victims.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:05 AM
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14. Nevertheless
it doesn't look like it's going to qualify for the ballot



http://horsesass.org/?p=18531
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:35 AM
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15. 30 Miles South of Seattle
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 10:36 AM by LeFleur1
I never saw a petition. That doesn't mean they weren't out there, but usually petition gatherers are standing in front of stores, out and about, trying to get people to sign.
Maybe they targeted places where they were pretty sure people would sign.

Re: California. I've been told that the issue was worded so poorly many people didn't know what they were voting for or against.
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