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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:25 PM
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Durbin Responds To Lobbyist-Run Efforts To Harass Town Halls: We ‘Won’t Fall For A Sucker-Punch Like
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/03/durbin-townhalls-gone-wild/

ThinkProgress reported today on the growing number of angry right-wing activists viciously harassing Democratic, as well as moderate Republican, members of Congress on health care reform. Jonathan Cohn wrote that these tactics represent “classic astroturf organizing, in some cases bankrolled by the health care industry.” The insurance industry is sending staff members to over 30 states to “confront” lawmakers about health care reform. Simultaneously, Cohn writes, the health care industry will use the August recess to “flood the airwaves with ads picking apart reform legislation.” Indeed, AHIP, the lobbying juggernaut for the health insurance industry, has promised to change its tone and begin running negative ads on reform soon.

ThinkProgress sat down today with Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) to discuss efforts by the health insurance industry and the right wing to derail health reform. Asked about the recent ambushes at town halls, Durbin expressed confidence that his “colleagues won’t fall for a sucker-punch like this”:

DURBIN: Well I think members should be out, speaking with the public, meeting with people who are the health care professionals and talking about the current situation. I’ve done it and I’ll continue to do it. But you know, I hope my colleagues won’t fall for a sucker-punch like this. These health insurance companies and people like them are trying to load these town halls for visual impact on television. They want to show thousands of people screaming ‘socialism’ and try to overcome the public sentiment which now favors health care reform. That’s almost like flooding the switchboards on Capitol Hill. It doesn’t prove much other than the switchboards have limited capacity. So, we need to have a much more balanced approach that really allows members of Congress to hear both sides of the story, rather than being sucker-punched or side-tracked by these types of tactics.

Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/03/durbin-townhalls-gone-wild/

The same lobbyist-run groups which orchestrated the tea party protests — Americans for Prosperity, run by a former associate of Jack Abramoff, and FreedomWorks, run by former Republican Majority Leader and current lobbyist Dick Armey — are now pushing to use the August recess as an opportunity to present a guise of public opposition to health care reform. ThinkProgress obtained a leaked memo from Bob MacGuffie, a volunteer with Tea Party Patriots, a website sponsored by Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, that details how members should be infiltrating town halls and harassing Democratic members of Congress. Recommended tactics include: “yell,” “stand up and shout,” and “rattle” lawmakers.

UPDATE The Wonk Room’s Pat Garofalo reports that, in a separate portion of the interview with ThinkProgress, Durbin spoke about the possibility of passing mortgage cram-down legislation. “The banking industry is extremely powerful on Capitol Hill and this is a proposal that they hate the most,” he said. “Unfortunately, they don’t have an alternative and the foreclosure crisis is getting much worse.”
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:27 PM
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1. Freedomworks is on a SMARTECH server
I'm just sayin'.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:03 PM
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8. Explain SMARTECH
please.
Many here do not know what it is about and who it is connected to.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:40 PM
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15. Gladly
SMARTECH is the official web host for the Republican party. They were the ones hosting the infamous domain gbwb43.com. For those who do not know or recall, gwb43.com was the email address that all those White House employees used so they could conduct nefarious business and bypass the confines of the Presidential Records Act. Remember the thousands of missing emails?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=SMARTech

Someday, somebody with authority is going to put 2 & 2 together and figure out that all these many conservative astro-turf groups are working in collusion with the republican party via SMARTECH.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 10:48 PM
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18. I take that back
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 10:49 PM by blogslut
I stand corrected. I was wrong. I messed up. I would like to correct what I said.

Freedomworks is NOT hosted on a Smartech server. I got my astroturf groups mixed up.

You see, I confused Freedomworks with Americans for Prosperity. The reason for the confusion is that both Freedomworks and Americans for Prosperity were behind the teabaggers, back in April:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tax_Day_Tea_Party

But wait, there's more...

Freedomworks dot com is Dick Army's project and is hosted on Rackspace servers. However, Freedomworks is a hybrid of Koch Industries' "Citizens for a Sound Economy" & "Empower America" - thus formed when there was a split in the power structure of CSE. The other offshoot of the former CSE is..."Americans for Prosperity". Americans for Prosperity is positively hosted on SMARTECH servers:

http://whois.domaintools.com/americansforprosperity.org
http://whois.domaintools.com/afphq.org

I apologize for getting my front groups mixed up but I blame the confusion on the incestuous nature of these bastids. Their kids all look alike.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Citizens_for_a_Sound_Economy
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Empower_America
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Americans_For_Prosperity
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:31 PM
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2. His Colleagues Many Not Fall For A Sucker-Punch Like This - But........
Durbin expressed confidence that his “colleagues won’t fall for a sucker-punch like this" but the MSM media will be playing the videos of these harassing demonstrations and many of the American people will fall for it. They are trying to sway public opinion - and if we don't out these set-up demonstrations - they'll succeed. MSM will play this over and over the whole August Recess.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:35 PM
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3. It's already starting
Saw someone on Facebook refer to the townhall disruptions as having "restored their faith in the American people." :puke:


And that's exactly how they're trying to frame this; as the American people poised to launch some revolution or something against the evil bad librul gubmint.


Just like the Teabaggers.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:37 PM
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4. The only answer is to stop having town hall meetings.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:45 PM
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5. or start arresting people for disturbing the peace
I suspect that these types of disruptions would stop or decline drastically once some arrests occurred.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:55 PM
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17. They could also begin checking IDs....
but only to ensure their own constituents had enough seats. Never to the extremes BushCo took it to ensure Dumbya always had a friendly, compliant audience.

Some of these disruptors are paid agent provocateurs, and don't deserve a voice at these events. IMHO, I think it crosses a legal line. Others simply aren't local and don't belong there - they should be harassing their own Congresscritters.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:01 PM
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7. Or have Dem reps fan out across cable & expose these tactics.
Name names -- such as FreedomWorks and the names of the insurance companies who are their clients.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:25 PM
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9. No - Not Acceptable - They Need To Screen Those That Attend And Make Sure.......
that they are residents in the Congressional District. If they are not from the district - don't let them in. If they want to be heard they should go to their own Congressional District's Town Hall. It is entirely unfair that those in the district will not be heard because of these outsiders. Screen the people.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:35 PM
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12. so, you propose Dems cave into the right wing? Why?
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 03:36 PM by fascisthunter
I doubt John Lenon would agree with you on this... he despised right wingers and their tactics to bully people.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:39 PM
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14. Nah, then the terrorists would have
won. Yes, they're terrorizing the meetings.

There's got to be a way of conducting town hall meetings with everyone being able to hear what is being said.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:00 PM
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6. Self-delete. nt
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 03:01 PM by quiet.american
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:30 PM
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10. No one is really interested
Check my journal, I couldn't get anyone to give a tinker's damn about it.



AFP owns 288 domains and at least one patientsunitednow.com is an astroturf shop, my bet is there are more.

-Hoot
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:34 PM
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11. "Lobbyist-Run Efforts"
I saw someone here asking if this was really astroturf... seemingly confusing this crap with genuine activism. K&R
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:37 PM
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13. we have a forum coming up next monday. i don't think they will bother us,
but i am on the committee that is running it, and i have every intention of gaveling the room to order or clearing it out. i hope they try. they will be on the youtube. and they wont look pretty.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:41 PM
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16. ...
:kick:
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