Orly Batshit Crazy Taitz & the "Two Birth Certificates" (the Hospital BC is a Keepsake, Orly)

Stephanie

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Mon Aug-03-09 03:50 PM
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Orly Batshit Crazy Taitz & the "Two Birth Certificates" (the Hospital BC is a Keepsake, Orly)

Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 04:33 PM by Stephanie

Okay, now I get it. I've seen "Eileen for Freedom/Liberty" railing about this online (the same Crazy Eileen, I believe, who disrupted the Castle town mtg a few weeks ago). Their whole argument is based on a spurious premise.

Taitz is insisting that the HOSPITAL birth certificate is the legal birth certificate. You know, the sweet souvenir with the baby's footprints that parents are given at the hospital. These certificates are issued as a MEMENTO. They have no legal status whatsoever.

The STATE issues the official birth certificate.

Good Lord these people are stoopid.

EPIC. FAIL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_certificate

Most hospitals in the U.S. issue a souvenir birth certificate which typically includes the footprints of the newborn. However, these birth certificates are not legally accepted as proof of age or citizenship, and are frequently rejected by the Bureau of Consular Affairs during passport applications. Many Americans believe the souvenir records to be their official birth certificates, when in reality they hold little legal value..

http://www.broomfield.org/hhs/Public_Health_Environment/PublicHealthvital_statistics.shtml

Vital Statistics is responsible for collecting data and issuing birth and death certificates. The collection of health data regarding causes of death, low birth weights, adolescent pregnancy, and other health trends provides information about factors, which drive the need for Public Health programs. Public Health is able to issue copies of birth certificates for anyone born in Colorado, regardless of the county in which they were born. The Health and Human Services Department (HHS) issues state certified birth certificates for any individual born in Colorado since 1903. Certified birth certificates are needed to obtain a Colorado Driver's License, identification Card or Driver's Permit, as well as for proof of employment, U.S. Passport applications, school enrollment, extracurricular activities, sports, and to apply for county social services and programs. Hospital birth certificates with baby's footprints are not legal documents.

http://www.articlesbase.com/personal-finance-articles/why-a-photocopy-of-your-birth-certificate-wont-be-accepted-for-official-business-855185.html

Your Original Birth Record:

Often, people don't realize that what they consider their official birth certificate is not actually a legal document. The copy given to new parents at the hospital, sometimes with the baby's footprints on it, is meant to be a cherished keepsake but is not valid for official proof of identity. Your original birth certificate must remain on file at the designated vital records agency office of your birth place after being submitted for registration by the attending hospital. This is where the only �original� copy of your birth record is located. This version is kept under lock and key and most people will never see their original. This is done to help ensure your identity is protected. For purposes of official business you�ll want to obtain a certified (raised seal) birth certificate from the department of public health or vital records office where the birth took place. This is also often described as an �official� copy.

http://www.stlukes.org/body.cfm?ID=645

St. Luke's New Mom Moments Club provides a variety of benefits to expect parents including:

A St. Luke's Birth Center booklet describing details about the birthing process.

New Mom Moments E-Letter- a trusted, free resource to guide you through pregnancy, labor and delivery and the first year of baby's life.

New Mom Moments Magazine, a publication you receive throughout your pregnancy to highlight the baby's development, body changes and how to prepare for your baby's arrival.

Keepsake Birth Certificate, a decorative document, complete with baby's footprints. (Your official state birth certificate is different.)

Orly Taitz's insane argument, transcription courtesy of DUer GreatCaesarsGhost:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6211192

In hawaii the way announcements

were made in the newspapers,

they have two types of birth

certificates.

That's why we're demanding to

see the original.

One was a proper birth

certificate from the hospital.

Another was a birth certificate

issued based on a statement of

one relative only.

It could be grandmother or a

mother.

***

So there were two types of birth

certificates.

One proper birth certificate

from hospital.

Another that came from a parent.

As a matter of fact, a parent

could have just filled out a

form and lied.

If obama was born in kenyaened a

-- and the mother wanted to lie

and didn't want to go through

immigration, she would fill out

the form saying my son was born

in honolulu, mail it or bring it

to the health department.

A hospital "birth certificate."