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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:53 PM
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But Geithner could have just answered the fucking question, right? So fuck Geithner.
During a Monday press conference, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs denied the possibility of tax increases on the middle-class, saying that an Associated Press report was based upon “hypothetical back and forths” between its economic advisers and not actual pending policy.

His answer was in response to suggestions by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers on Sunday that middle class taxes may have to go up in order to pare down the budget deficit.

“I think the advisers allowed themselves to get into a hypothetical back and forth,” Gibbs explained on Monday. “I will say this and i think this is important for all of us to understand and we’ve talked, about this issue and throughout the time that we’ve been here, we do have a big structural deficit that’s going to have to be dealt with in order to meet the president’s commitment of cutting this deficit in half and getting us back on a path toward fiscal responsibility.”

He insisted: “The door to new middle class taxes is not open even a millimeter.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/03/gibbs-obama-committed-to-no-middle-class-tax-hike/
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:56 PM
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1. Can you provide with Geithner's quote on this?
Thanks.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:59 PM
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Watch the clip I posted yesterday...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:01 AM
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4. I would prefer a quote from Geithner. I like my information in print.....
not so much in pictures. Thanks.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:15 AM
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7. Like the OP said, he could have said NO.
GEITHNER: ...We can do this, it just requires the will to act.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Including new revenues?

GEITHNER: Well, we're going to have to look at – we're going to have to do what's necessary.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you're not ruling it out, you can't rule it out.

GEITHNER: I think what the country needs to do is understand we're going to have to do what it takes, we're going to do what's necessary.
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Please don't tell me you don't think that's a mixed message. Here's the deal as I see it: The Obama Administration will deny there is a tax hike coming down the pike until it's a day away, and then they'll blame it on the previous administration.

It's what I would do too... blame my inability to live up to the campaign promise of NO American citizen seeing their taxes rise a dime, on someone else, once it's obvious that I either didn't know the whole of the situation, or that I fibbed a little during the campaign.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:24 AM
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8. Geithner should have denied that he beats his wife.......
When someone asks does he love her! :eyes:

Some folks are letting the media hose them...
or perhaps that's what they want.

So much shit, so little time!
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:33 AM
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9. That would surely be MY play, if I were asked that question, but that wasn't the question asked.
You get that, right?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:33 AM
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10. he could have said yes as well.
he essentially refused to be lead down george's talking point and stated his own.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:36 AM
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11. I do not now, now have I ever, put much faith in "talking points". n/t
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 AM
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14. it just looked like two talking points mixed to me
Geroge was pushing his "middle class tax cut" talking point and Gitty was trying to stay on his "we will do whatever it takes" talking point.

If geroge's point had been about making people into solent green for the economy, people would not be saying that he didn't deny it.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:53 AM
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15. You cite an "inability to live up to"...
..."the campaign promise of NO American citizen seeing their taxes rise a dime."

I do not remember such a promise.

I do remember Obama saying that no one whose income was less than $250K would see their taxes rise. And he may be unable to live up to that, I suppose. But I'm trying to figure out where you got the idea that he said no one's taxes would go up? It's not what I remember. That sounds more like a promise that a Republican would make -- you know, something like, "Read my lips: no new taxes."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:56 AM
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17. Where does it say those new revenues have to come from the middle class?
I think you're getting played.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:59 PM
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2. He may just be getting tired!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:01 AM
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3. Companion thread
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:04 AM
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5. Didn't read a quote where Geithner talks about raising taxes?
Exactly what did he say....because I keep hearing the media talking about Geithner talking about tax hikes to the middle class, but I haven't actually read or heard any quotes in where he actually says anything of the kind.

What am I missing? :shrug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:58 AM
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18. Yeah... I'm not getting outragey till I see a quote. (nt)
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:12 AM
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6. It would appear, from the sentiments at DU, that Geithner is getting all the sex he can handle.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:41 AM
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12. He certainly must be
Considering he and the other Wall Street tools are continuing to FUCK the entire country.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 01:02 AM
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13. I guarantee that there was a conversation along these lines in the White House
Geithner: But you said never to commit to anything when talking to the media. We weigh all of our options all the time, right?

Obama: Not on taxes, damnit!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:55 AM
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16. Geinther needs new economic advisors.
One of them is a propagandist.
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