Man sleeps with four women and gets his parts Krazy Glued!

litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:54 AM Original message

Man sleeps with four women and gets his parts Krazy Glued!

Full story pasted here. ---- http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/08/cops-wife-three-other-women-torture-husband.html STOCKBRIDGE, Wis. -- Three women who had affairs with a married man are accused of luring him to a motel where, joined by the man's wife, they tied him up and applied Krazy Glue to his private parts. Therese Ziemann invited the man to a motel on Thursday, tied him up, promised a massage and then sent text messages to the other women, according to Calumet County prosecutors. Once all the women were there, they confronted him about his infidelity, police say. Ziemann punched him in the face and glued his penis to his stomach with Krazy Glue, according to the criminal complaint. The women fled the motel when the man started screaming, officials said. Charged with false imprisonment are Ziemann, 48, of Menasha, Wis.; Michelle Belliveau, 43, of Neenah, Wis.; Wendy L. Sewell, 43, of Kaukauna; and the man's wife. The Associated Press was not naming the wife to protect the man's identity. Authorities say Ziemann punched the man in the face and glued his penis to his stomach. The women are free on $200 cash bails. ---

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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message

1. Ouch!

Well, it's been said: Karma's a bitch.

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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:03 AM Response to Original message

2. Wonder if they can find a jury to convict

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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:51 AM Response to Reply #2

14. Hope it doesn't end in a hung jury. n/t

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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #14

44. king of one-liners. hail!

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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #14

134. That's what she said! WOOO!!!

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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:04 AM Response to Original message

3. Would it be as 'amusing' if it were a woman and 4 guys crazy-glued her vagina shut?

:shrug: Maybe not.

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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #3

4. Men controlling women's vaginas is such a common occurrence,

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:12 AM by pnwmom it's lost its shock value. Unlike what the woman did to the man. And what they did -- not that I'm justifying it -- can be fixed a lot more easily than, say, removing the clitoris and fusing the labia together with thorns and catgut. And yes, I realize that it is other women who generally perform this action -- but they do it because women are considered worthless as wives to men if they are intact.

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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #4

30. I know - FGM is very common in Wisconsin

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #4

109. So what is your point?

You say that you dont justify what the women did, but seem to think its no big deal because it is easier to repair that damage than it is to a woman? Men gluing a womans vagina is NOT a common occurrence. You should be outraged that four women CONSPIRED to kidnap a man and then (sexually) assaulted him. Had 4 men done this to a woman, what would have been your response?

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #109

140. The response was to the hateful, violent, misogynistic image of the previous poster

which you have now picked up on -- including the potential flames to start a gender war. :evilfrown:

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #140

257. Actually - iit has exposed the HYPOCRISY of posters like YOU - BIG TIME!!!

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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #109

156. I was explaining how humor works, more than anything else.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 01:03 PM by pnwmom See also post 154. As far as being outraged, there is so much to be outraged about in the world. Based on the few facts known we know at this point, I'm not ready to spend energy being outraged about this particular case.

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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:35 AM Response to Reply #109

275. because in our society

1. women being violent toward men is CUTE and FUNNY! 2. men being violent toward women is abhorrent 3. the people who believe 1. and 2. also believe men and women are totally equal in every way!

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #4

124. Why would you argue from this point of view

no one is comparing the abuse or saying that violence against women is funny or something to joke about. Why do you justify this as being jokable by claiming that women suffer under men? I just do not get some of the backward nonsense in here.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #124

141. The "backward nonsense" was introduced by the person the poster replied to

Ask him

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #141

228. Reread what I wrote

in this thread in addressing other posters. It isn't about who posted it. Whether male or female, original poster or responders, this is about hypocrisy in the "liberal" community and their bias against men and it is passe to mock, trivialize and in this case laugh about a man's suffering. I have never argued that this man is not worthy of criticism, but more to point out how if suffering it attributed to someone you do not like, it is funny. As liberals we would be outraged if a suspected terrorist had his penis and balls crazy glued. As I have said in a previous post, I feel sorry for the men who post supporting such violence.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #228

244. I was not referring to your post

"Whether male or female, original poster or responders, this is about hypocrisy in the "liberal" community and their bias against men and it is passe to mock, trivialize and in this case laugh about a man's suffering." AFAIK, there is no "liberal community and their bias against men......" except in the propaganda of Rush Limbaugh and his clones.

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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #124

154. Humor depends on surprise. These women

"turned the tables" on the man, as it were -- resulting in surprise to the reader -- resulting in humor. Not subtle humor, or smart humor, or dry or witty humor -- plain old slapstick humor, which is often nasty, by the way. Now, in the opposite situation, there is no turning of the tables, no surprise, nothing humorous at all. Just tragedy repeated through the centuries and across many cultures. But this is precisely why the other situation is funny to many people -- it is the opposite of the expected, therefore it's humorous.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #154

230. Interesting take

and I see your point. I, myself, think this is an ironic turn of events for this man, but I do not relish it like I see from both male and female posters. Your angle is a good one, but I am just responding to what seems like a common trend in DU. The bigger picture is that it is considered fine to mock, denigrate and in this case, laugh at a tortuous act on men. As the father of two sons, a liberal with plans on teaching my boys well, to raise him in a community that thinks so little of him would be a shame.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #230

245. Then do him a favor, teach hiim about male privilege and prevent the disease of thinking that every

thing is always about him and his gender. "...but I am just responding to what seems like a common trend in DU. The bigger picture is that it is considered fine to mock, denigrate and in this case, laugh at a tortuous act on men." That is completely absurd. Take a look at the real big picture and develop some perspective. Please.

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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #230

265. I agree with you, really, which is why I've never much enjoyed slapstick humor,

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:38 PM by pnwmom which is all about other people getting hurt. On the other hand, I understand that it is a natural human reaction to laugh when the tables are turned -- especially in a way that doesn't really seem that gruesome (even krazy glue can be removed).

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #4

241. Why does this have to be compared to the torture of women

Does it cheapen of lessen this act? Nope, not for me. If this was the reverse, this place would be appalled and I would be equally appalled, but this is different. This allows every angry jaded, broken hearted people to act out their personal anger. It is still torture.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #4

242. Why does this have to be compared to the torture of women

Does it cheapen of lessen this act? Nope, not for me. If this was the reverse, this place would be appalled and I would be equally appalled, but this is different. This allows every angry jaded, broken hearted people to act out their personal anger. It is still torture.

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #4

254. Ahh - double standard exhibit one here!!!

"nice" to see you're back to the usual...

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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:11 AM Response to Reply #3

5. Exactly.

Unfunny, either way.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:13 AM Response to Reply #5

20. Agreed.

Treating any attack such as this as a prank is a serious miscarriage of justice. False imprisonment is a crime. Beating a person who you've tied up is a crime. Super gluing the genitals of a person is a crime.

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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #20

117. I think cheating should be a crime, too.

That would stop a lot of it. Dishonoring other contractual agreements can result in criminal charges, so why not?

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #117

142. No state agrees with you on that. Saudi Arabia does, however.

Adultery has not been a crime in the US in a long time.

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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #142

179. In fact, it's against the law in Wisconsin, where this took place

although it's likely been a long time since anyone was prosecuted for it.

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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #117

190. Possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on DU

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #117

238. Yes and we should stone children who disobey their parents

sigh.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #117

239. Yes and we should stone children who disobey their parents

sigh.

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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:42 AM Response to Reply #117

276. dishonoring contracts does NOT result in criminal charges

except maybe in a rare instance I can't think of right now. If you break a contract, you won't go to jail, but you might get sued.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #20

160. Krazy Glue. It was Krazy Glue. There's absolutely nothing funny about Super Glue.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #160

165. They're the same product by different manufacturers.

And there's nothing funny about either one being used to sexually abuse men or women.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #165

170. Consider the difference in these two:

Man sleeps with four women and gets his parts Krazy Glued! Cops: Wife, three other women torture husband

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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #3

16. Not funny.

He was just a cheating cheater. They were sick and cruel.

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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #16

119. And it's not sick and cruel to dishonor your spouse?

Not advocating for either abuse or cheating, fwiw.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #119

122. They are not mutual exclusive

the point is this would not be tolerated or funny if men did this to a woman.

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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #122

199. Exactly.

And this is just one out of countless examples where its ok and funny to see a man abused or assaulted, but, outrageous if the same thing were to occur against a woman. You can see small examples of this double standard all the time in the movies and television. A woman slaps a man because for whatever reason she felt offended. This scene is played out countless times in countless scenarios with the context of it being behavior which is acceptable enough. Teaching our culture that a man is suppose to take it if a woman slaps him, and, that if a man is slapped by a woman he deserves it. Movies have been made about cheating women with the crux of it being "she wasn't being satisfied in her marriage". In other words: Her husband wasn't enough for her, ergo, her affairs weren't a bad thing. She was only looking to have her needs fulfilled, etc. Again, not only promoting a double standard, but, also, dumping on the victim because he's the man and its always the man's fault.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #199

200. you are right. i was seeing most of the humorous post made by men.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 05:55 PM by seabeyond i wasnt really understanding where you men were coming from. but this is spelled out much better to understand the anger here in this thread. and you are absolutely correct. i have never thought it ok to slap a guy. never liked it in movies. it was more my generation 60's and 70's where it was an acceptable norm and it really offended me. my brother had a girlfriend that would slap and i told him slap back. i dont buy it. but i hear what you say

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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #200

202. Thank you seabeyond

Despite my harshness in many of my posts. In posts such as this I never intend to do anything except make points that illustrate double standards. I have nothing against any other person because of who or what they are. I only care about "equality". True equality. :toast: :hug:

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #199

258. Yep - and I'm DISGUSTED by the usual posters who try to excuse this double standard...

but I'm not surprised at all...

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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #199

261. Yup. What many fail to see is the sexism in that.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:55 PM by TahitiNut If one says it's sexist, far too many claim that "reverse sexism" just doesn't exist because women are, by far, the more abused, both individually and socially, all over the world. But the interesting thing is it's actually sexist against women to assume they're less responsible for their own behavior, are more 'emotionally needy,' and must be treated more forgivingly .... like children. It fascinates me that so many, who're quick to rise to the defense of women (against sexism real or imagined) are so fucking blind to the perpetuation of these very memes. Maybe it's "feminine intuition"? (I notice that the batshit insane sociopath "Ignored" has been attracted to this thread ... like a dung beetle to a pile of manure ... and "Ignored" is a great example of one incapable of seeing the sexist idiocy of their own Krusader position.) :puke:

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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #199

288. Yep...

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 07:06 AM by sendero ... and go to divorce court if you want to see "equality" in action. In most states, the woman has all the rights and the man is assumed a priori to be a deadbeat. Women can get off their high horse about "equality" until they really mean it.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #288

290. omen can get off their high horse about "equality"... and where are the men that challenge

this post. cause though i agree with what you are saying in the courts, something i have seen, that i think is totally unfair and fight against, when it is in my personal realm, more so than the actual males in my life fight, to argue as you do is just as wrong. i am told by the males here, all we want is understanding, a fairness and yes, we will be there for women when the shit is on the other foot, being the progressive male. i havent seen much on this site. and this is the very type of post, that the male should challenge if they are serious. even with your very valid point of female privilege with court and family matters.

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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #119

252. I did not say that.

I'm not sure why you thought I did. Maybe because I didn't say that he got what he deserved? He was a jerk and a terrible husband. His wife could divorce him and his girlfriends dump him and move on. I stand by initial post. What they did was cruel.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16

151. Funny how three scorned lovers + one betrayed spouse = one angry mob

Sounds like they thought the "cheating cheater" was "sick and cruel."

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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #16

164. "Just a cheating cheater"...

who may or may not have cheated with a number of other women, some of whom may or may not have STDs or even HIV/AIDS. If he wants to expose himself to such things, that's his choice. But he has NO right whatsoever to expose his unknowing sexual partners to it. All he got for being a total fucking pig was a beating and a gluing. His sexual partners might in the future have to deal with a whole lot more as a result of his sexual treachery. And...what makes this so deliciously funny to me is that he appears to be the type of man who is PROUD of sleeping with (let's tell it like it is here, though...we're all adults...he's FUCKING them) a whole harem of women. Big man. Me Tarzan. Player and proud of it... He got what he deserved. I'd go so far as to wish some particularly nasty STD on him, but that would mean his victims would probably suffer as well, so I can't. Maybe from now on he'll think twice before being a faithless pig.

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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #164

201. But when women cheat its different...

In the OP, was this guy's wife adequately fulfilling his needs? Just wondering because: When women cheat its justified, romanticized and considered an indictment against the man for not being adequate in fulfilling his wife's needs.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #201

206. with the women the male is not satisfying. with the male that cheats he cant help himself

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 06:18 PM by seabeyond dna, biology, boys will be boys, spreading his seed.... i think there is an equality on both gender excusing their behavior.

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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #206

215. I like your posts seabeyond.

"i think there is an equality on both gender excusing their behavior." Exactly... And if I may elaborate. Gender based topics need to drop the stereotype/bigoted notions about men and woman. For example: I know a few women who are as big a dog as any guy I know, and, I know a couple of co-worker guys who have wives about as affectionate or sexually stimulating as a block of ice.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #215

216. ah

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 07:03 PM by seabeyond your new here, lol just you wait. thanks. i agree with your post too. i am into that true equality to. balance. libra

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #201

209.  bad case of testosterone poisoning,... post 203. blame it on the testoterone. nt

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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #164

253. ???

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:32 PM by verdalaven Maybe the death penalty should be imposed for cheating cheaters. Every stroke could be considered an assault with a deadly weapon. You know, his girlfriends were adults, too. They were old enough to know about STDs and take responsibility for their actions. HIs wife is another matter, but as a friend of mine did (for a year after her divorce) she can be tested. She should be tested! I did not exonerate the cheater. I just don't like cruelty. And I dislike how easy we(I mean all human beings) gain satisfaction, even in a vicarious way, at the expense of another person's suffering. But it is okay to glory in this chump's pain, because he is beneath us, right? We can save our liberal hearts for people who deserve it, like four adult women who should have counted to ten and walked away with at least their humanity intact.

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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #164

259. One of the girlfriends was cheating on her husband.

Guess she's a pig too. She's the one who did the gluing, and it seems she was pissed because she had paid for the room at their motel sordide for months and had given him money besides.

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #3

83. There, ya have it.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3

146. Where are you getting 'amusing' from?

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 12:41 PM by redqueen Just curious.

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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #3

198. no there would be outrage, insults flung at anyone not sufficiently outraged, and lots of

spittle covered monitors. But it happened to a man, so who cares. Get on the double standard train!

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #3

255. OUCH! Good point - but I'm sure the usual suspects will TRY to disagree...

and we will know them by their HYPOCRICY!!!

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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #255

263. Yup. (See my post #263 above.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6214926&mesg_id=6221824

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SleeplessInAlabama (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:12 AM Response to Original message

6. So, are we going to go through 200 posts of this debate everytime someone posts the article?

:shrug:

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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:34 AM Response to Reply #6

18. I guess you weren't here for Michael Jackson?

:shrug:

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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:13 AM Response to Original message

7. These ladies must have been fans

of Reservoir Dogs Well, whoever she was, Elois looked like her. So one night I walk into the club, and no Elois. Now the bartender was a wetback, he was a friend of mine, his name was Carlos. So I asked him "Hey, Carlos, where's Lady E tonight?" Well apparently Lady E was married to this real piece of dog shit. I mean a real animal. And apparently he would so things to her. FREDDY Do things? What would he do? You mean like beat her up? EDDIE Nobody knows for sure what he did. We just know he did something. Anyway, Elois plays it real cool. And waits for the next time this bag of shit gets drunk. So one night the guy gets drunk and passes out on the couch. So while the guy's inebriated, she strips him naked. Then she takes some crazy glue and glues his dick to his belly. .

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #7

85. they were big fans of his 'parts,' just so long as those parts were possessory

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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #85

135. He sure possessed them all right! WOOO!!!

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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #135

177. That's what she said!! WOOOOOO!

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #135

187. they allowed him to fly and bounce prior to the discovery that he shared the bounce

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 03:43 PM by Supersedeas so yea, I'd say that they were fans.

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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #187

204. Back and forth? WOOOO!!!!

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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:16 AM Response to Original message

8. Hell hath no fury

like a woman scorned.

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Unrepentant Fenian (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #8

9. I hope those females spend a large amount of time in prison, then have to register as sex offenders!

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wuvuj (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:59 AM Response to Reply #9

15. That would be too fair....

Women are always victims?

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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #9

153. This woman's perspective

When a man lies to you in order to have sex with you, when you find out you feel as though you have been sexually assaulted. My Mr Zola, whom is far from being a feminist, believes that there should be no legal charges against these women.

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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #153

178. I don't blame him. I'd tell my wife the same thing, since I'm a heavy sleeper & we have glue. n/t

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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #178

193. LOL

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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:09 AM Response to Reply #8

13. x4!

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #8

34. Most women don't even need to be scorned to act mean and heartless

But scorn does bring out the worst in them.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #34

37. Really? Most?

Interesting.

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #37

52. I think most people are that way, and stupid and selfish too.

The post I replied to was specifically about women.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #52

56. Oh ok.

Fair point.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #34

41. I don't think that's true. "Most?"

I'd say there is a percentage of mean and heartless people within both gender groups. But I wouldn't say "most".

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #41

53. Maybe my life situation subjects me to an artificially high percentage of losers

I'm 51 and divorced. It seems most of the decent women are married. Recently I have been subjected to an unusual amount of bad female behavior.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #53

58. Well, there is no substitute for experience.

I'm sorry you have been jaded by your dealings as of late. I am so thankful to have a beautiful and loving wife who is also a phenomenal mother. So many of my friends speak badly of their wives and I each time I just think about how lucky I am... she's better than I deserve.

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #58

61. You are a lucky man, and I'm glad you know it

A lot of men do indeed speak ill of their wives and of women in general.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #61

62. yes they do. nt

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #58

236. I am fortunate myself

and thank her often for her partnership and great mothering to my boys. That is why this is important to me. I have boys. I don't want them to grow up with messages that degrade their gender. It isn't ok for women, why should it be ok for men?

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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #53

71. maybe you should ask yourself why you are attracted to women who end up exhibiting bad behavior

And I don't say that to be obnoxious. It's something I did a long time ago... examine the guys I went out with and what it was that attracted me and what I should look for in other men and also avoid.

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #71

79. You are absolutely right, and I am in a period of intense self-examination

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:34 AM by slackmaster Happily alone for now. The one common element in the string of (mostly) bad relationships I've had since my divorce, is me.

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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #53

104. Interesting...I'm a 50-something never-married woman, and over the decades,

I have been subjected to an unusual amount of bad male behavior. If you've never experienced it, you'd be surprised how some males act if they know a woman doesn't have a husband/boyfriend/father,etc., that will hold them accountable for shitty behavior.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #34

57. wow.... nt

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #34

220. Hey, where are you guys pointing out "What if a statement like that was made about Most Men?!!"

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 07:27 PM by omega minimo Yes, it would be a flamewar, the same people here who are playing "tit for tat" and WHAT IF!! and turning this around, yet again, to be all about men and their hurt feelings and calling others hypocrites.... Where is your sense of self righteousness and indignation when a misogynistic inflammatory, broadbrush turd like this is floated in the punchbowl?

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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8

70. jail hath no cells

like those reserved for the demented.

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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:18 AM Response to Original message

10. This is nothing a little acetone can't fix.

This dude's lucky he didn't get the 'Bobbit' treatment.

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #10

113. Yeah, he is lucky.

Would you say that if it had been four men who kidnapped and glued a womans vagina?

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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #113

197. Post the story next time and see for yourself.

.

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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:38 AM Response to Original message

11. I remember the hilarity that ensued when Lorena sliced off whathisnames penis.

It's so damn funny when that shit happens to men.

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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:09 AM Response to Reply #11

19. but hey ... can't that be cured by a little nail polish remover too?

oh, wait ...

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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #11

21. A Lot Of People Were Happy To See a Rapist Meet Justice

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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #21

144. Would those people have ever found a reason to laugh and

joke about justice being dealt to a woman by slicing off a breast?

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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #144

157. Get Back to Me When That Happens

k?

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masuki bance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #157

159. Exactly. nt

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #144

162. Don't overlook the daily reality of violence against women. Your extreme example is but one.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #11

25. Isn't it though?

Hell, we had some DUers recently who gave tacit approval to men being raped in prison. Misandry is alive and well. :eyes:

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #25

29. Yep. Rape is a very serious topic. Oh, wait ... prison rape? Let the laughs begin!

When it's reported that more men than women are raped, there's no outrage. It's minimized. It's ignored. It's ridiculed. It's rationalized (well, some of those men are rapists themselves). That's wrong, of course. The rapists in prison are likely rapists outside of prison, too.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #29

33. Yes. It is a horrible double standard.

I have a very close friend who was sent to prison on a marijuana charge. There was a domestic dispute called in at his apartment complex, and the cops knocked on his door instead of the correct door down the hall. He opened the door up wide enough for them to see his stash on his coffee table, and the rest is history. Based on his behavior during certain situations pre and post prison, I would bet the farm that he was raped. I've tried to get him to open up about his time in prison, but he is suffering in silence. The thread you are referencing really shook my faith in humanity. Cruelty not only rationalized, but embraced. It was sickening.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #33

45. Indeed. It's the inmates who are the least threats to the public who get raped.

All those non violent criminals we ship away for drug offenses or property crimes are the rape victims. The rapists are the criminals who should never see the free world again. You'd think those groups would be separated, but our sadistic penal systems enjoy making prison rape and abuse part of the "punishment."

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #25

43. i only saw males joke about this in two threads. i only saw males condone the rape in prison

i have not heard one female condone rape of male prisoners, as a matter of fact, they are generally as vocal or more than males. on that specific thread, it is was the dismissal of women with subtitle and the inaccurate number they used in comparison of male/female rape. i have also had threads of date rape, justification of 12 yr old strippers and rape simulation games of little girls with men "joking" or boojahing that behavior too. but then i also didnt see the male outrage at that behavior, as i do on these male threads abuse, dehumanizing, degradation, of either gender is just that, abuse, dehumanization and degradation. let the trial begin

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #43

47. Then we either saw different threads,

or read the thread I am thinking about differently. Because I saw it just as I described it, and so did a lot of other people. I did see a few males in question refer to 'Bubba' and such, and I was glad their comments were deleted.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #47

50. are you talking the glue threads? i saw the two that was on front page this morning

i got the impression there was a bigger thread, but i did not see it. and no.... it isnt funny.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #50

51. I was referring to a thread that made the rounds 1-2 weeks ago

which was entitled (paraphrased) "each year 140,000 men get raped in prison". It was an utter trainwreck.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #51

55. and i saw males saying they get what they deserve. and fine

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:07 AM by seabeyond i also saw females angry that they took female rape and compared to male. and the numbers they accrued for male rape was different from the figure given to female rape. i saw a lot of people purposely not understanding or listening to what females were saying. why they were angry. i didnt want to play in the battle because i really dont feel we need to be competitive on which gender is being more abused. a simple it is wrong, ... suffices. on this thread, why is it the one woman that kinda condoned, though clearly does not, got questioned. and the men still just keep on coming on to joke and no one is going after them it is once again making into a gender battle instead of addressing the issue. which that rape thread became, and i dont need to be a part of that.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #55

63. You are right in the sense that

the gender battle outweighed the salient point the OP was making. So I won't rehash that aspect of it here, since it would likely result in a flurry of deleted posts and pissing contests. I would be happy to continue this train of thought via PM if you are so inclined, though. But you make a good point about the male behavior in the thread and it sounds as if we are not that far apart. :pals:

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #63

66. i dont think we are far apart. i agree with every male on this thread that is pissed.

i really dont want to get into the other thread either. when i got to the battle, i stepped back out and didnt get back in. higher in the thread i gave my support to males that rape is wrong.... be it male prisoners, females and children. nothing more needed to be said

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #55

126. self hating men who want women to like them

by joking about abuse and torture of other men. That is my experience.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #126

127. you think? i dont know. i figured it was just the lack of sensitivity to the violence and invasion

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 12:23 PM by seabeyond the act of rape.... i dont get it. i dont get why it would be a foreign concept to anyone. a lot of male children are raped. there are lots of "antics" and i say with disgust, in the locker room showers providing sexual humiliation. i have not considered this to be to "get women to like them". maybe the self hating makes sense but then also, as there are women that do the stupid, thinking it will get male to like them, i can see this. (how i do it some times, the more i post in thought, the more i can get it). i guess a man jumping on and yelling ya.... they rape, let them be rape, can be construed as support for women, by some males. thanks for the insight

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #127

131. Maybe in the shower room,

they do it so other like-minded males will like them? Maybe it would be seen as feminine (and therefore bad) to say anything was wrong with such behavior? :shrug:

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #131

139. see, you are probably right on both counts. nt

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #127

219. Yep

Men are not the enemy as often depicted in DU (without any real moderating). I find many of the men on here will sacrifice their gender to please women. I am against all violence against women and men and anyone. Again the reverse scenario. A woman cheats on her husband with other men. They find out and crazy glue her labia together. Regardless of how heinous of a person she man have been the act of torture on her is not warranted. That is the hypocrisy. If that was reported on DU as such a story, I doubt anyone would find that as a justified. So why is it that it is funny if it is a man? I think it stems for legitimate anger about what was done to many women on here by men. But it is so often fueled by rage and victimization (legitimate) projected in an illegitmate fashion. So I ask why is this a jokable situation? If in Guantanmo Bay, this was done to a prisoner, most DUers would be outraged.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #219

223. seeing how i consistently stand up for either gender in abuse, or humiliation

you are singing to the choir. i have seen plenty of threads where women are the victim and the males came in with joke after joke. or the stupid... worthless without the picture. one of the most disgusting threads was the mp that took pictures of female soldiers in shower. no males admonished the males making asses out of themselves and most all of that thread was male jokes. if it was truly as you say, men would have equally been offended. didnt happen girl has boyfriend take her nude pictures, boyfriend shows friends as a trophy, what a man, humiliates her and what do we get on du.... the ever present and adolescent (from grown men) worthless without picture.... so i find it to be hypocritical this outrage too.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #223

229. And I would not defend

the actions of the men who did what you describe above. I would speak out as vehemently and you would. The sad thing that I see is that in the absolute acknowledgement of patriarchy and all of it's extremely damaging affects upon women, it seems to be ok for the reverse to be true in here. I understand that alot of people have been victimized, but if we are ever going to move forward it is not at the expense of one gender or the other.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:16 AM Response to Reply #229

289. that is the frustrating part of du. you said you would vehemently speak out against... and we hear

that in threads like this, when male is actually asking for equality, but we do not see it when the time comes. ever. there are a couple men that come on and will make posts, but none that will challenge fellow male another point is how conveniently you shift male poor behavior to female. they do it to look good in front of female. it almost becomes womens fault excusing the weak male. we get that way too much. and yes, women are almost continually experiencing patriarchy. when my boys say, but i have never been a racist, i stand up with blacks, gays, women with the threat to my own body, why are they angry, racist back at me. i am not part of the problem. i explain to them there are reasons, valid reasons why and behooves them to understand. whether like it or not, it is there, and it is there through the creation of their gender and lastly, damn straight there is a perceived female privilege that i equally dont like and fight. the most recent one (and no, it was not the prison rape thread) was do you tell father you are preg or is it ok not to tell him. i was so offended the one sided ness of a lot of the womens posts.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #126

148. What about post 145?

Is that an example of what you describe?

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #148

235. Yes and I have responded

How badly have you been hurt by men redqueen? Cause really that is what this is all about, isnt it?

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #235

294. what a totally offensive, patronizing and dismissive post

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 07:57 AM by seabeyond i also stand up for blacks, gays, children and oh MEN when there are injustices. does that mean i do it only cause i have been hurt as a black, gay, child or man? hell no. i do it cause those are injustices and i have a responsibility and obligation to speak out you used the "weak, emotional little lady" that doesn't have a brain, only emotion, bullshit now tell me how you stand with women ..... too, vehemently. you went right into the patriarchy mode

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #235

300. Extremely badly, thanks for reminding me. Really. It feels really good.

Why did you say that to me? Do you think that I've been unfair in this thread? I don't even know how to respond... but reading that response, coming from someone who claims only to want fairness... I'm tempted to call it 'telling'. There is a poster in this thread, a man, who said something ugly about 'most' women... no men chastised him, even after he himself admitted the ugly comment was fueled by past experiences. The women who commented were kind and understanding... but you... you so rudely said that to me. You don't care... you just want to score some kind of point... even if it's completely unfounded. Fucking pathetic. I hope you're happy with yourself. Thanks once again for bringing all those memories back up. I didn't deserve that. It is not what this is all about, and I don't understand why you said that.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #300

303. I am familiar with your threads of the past

and you have rarely been fair to men. I find that there is a percentage of women in DU, who have been victimized by men in the past, and then use that as a justification for denigrating men as a gender. You point to a rare incident where you read a post by a man, who didn't get responded to by men, but I can tell you that the opposite is more often true. It is en vogue to mock men and that which is masculine in DU and when you call women, and some men, on it they fall back into victimization as the last refuge, like you just did. Then if I pursue this further, I look like the bad guy because I called you on it. That is what is really pathetic. And you are right, I don't really care about you. I only know you by your posts and from what I have read, there is not much to like, quite honestly, so I am not considering your feelings. I tire of the self righteous, vindictive women who think that they can say anything about men and it should be tolerated. They often take a highly aggressive, hostile stance and, God forbid if they are confronted, play the victim.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #303

306. Then find one, and send me the link.

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 01:01 PM by redqueen Back up your claims. While you're at it, back up your claim that in most cases, men do call other men out on that shit, "I can tell you that the opposite is more often true"... just telling me is meaningless, prove it.

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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #235

314. How badly have you been hurt by women, BoneDaddy?

Cause that's really what this is all about, isn't it?

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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #51

103. I saw exactly what you did.

Plenty of women (and some men too) justifying prison rape, because heck, some of those people getting raped just might be rapists themselves. It was one of the most disgusting threads I had ever read on the DU and the apologists for the people downplaying the significance or even condoning prison rape made me absolutely sick.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #103

286. Yes, that's exactly what happened.

Why such posters are allowed to spew their gender based hatred without any repercussions is a mystery. Look at this thread. Some posters have made one vile comment after another, and it's obvious they don't have the least worry about spouting their neverending gender based hatred. Their comments remain, as emblems that many who claim to embrace equality don't live it at all. Equality means women are held to the standard as men when it comes to crimes, particularly domestic violence and sexual assault. Using the "King's X" approach, allowing gender based hatred when it is directed at men, is not progressive and never has been.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #286

291. when a poster totally ignores the points of said offensive poster, then

your perspective of what should be allowed and not is skewed. to, you are missing the point of that poster for agenda or cause of anger. so you are not going ot be satisfied or feel validated if you refuse to look at is in the bigger picture, as poster stated. when microing it, it is so clear, you are missing the macro perspective adn the anger on the other side. that is never productive. i dont know if it is your passion on this subject or if you are willingly not acknowledging. MOST ALL the women on this thread is saying the super glue was too far. but they are not compassionate with the guy that cheated. that isnt enough for some on the board, and they call them man haters (which is lame) insisting this man needs to be seen as the innocent. there is a difference from seeing him as innocent, and seeing him as victim, not particularly innocent.

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #43

273. That is not what I saw.

I saw the same few women who thought this story was so funny when it was posted the other day, minimizing prison rape and even suggesting it was appropriate or acceptable.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #273

280. nah. i didnt play in the post. too many were purposely being obtuse with what was being said

the people that flat out said rape good, were men

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #280

296. Again- that is not what I remember.

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 09:55 AM by Marr There were some men who took the same position, but most were hit-and-run. The people who really dug in and kept pushing that revolting line were, as I recall, women. I'm not accusing you of anything, btw. There are two or three names I remember from those threads who consistenly argued a point that I found particularly repulsive, and they claimed to be women. But they weren't you.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #296

297. i didnt have a vested interest. i cam to the thread late. i do not have to justify or excuse

or lessen prison rape. i dont feel a need to be competitive with male female rape. it is simple for me it is wrong. one of the first subthreads i encountered was male posters i really like saying how women approve. was a huge wtf to me.... cause the ones that oked the rape as i read down thread were male. i posted on that thread, totally backing the male perspective on prison rape wrong. joking about prison rape is wrong. i did not understand why female were getting the blame from their posts. further down the thread i saw the problem. a different perspective. i had not taken op in the manner of the women, cause i was simply seeing rape wrong. when i read what they said, i understood what they were saying. i also understood what the men were saying. and i saw that there was a refusal to listen, so i didnt post and stayed out of the thread the perspective that women were oking rape was due to women trying to explain the imbalance in the op. and that was not the agenda of the post. wasnt receptive to understanding

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #297

298. There were some making that point, IIRC-- and I

completely understood where they were coming from. The thread's title could be interpreted to be suggesting that rape of women was less of a problem, and there were a lot of people responding to that. And rightly so-- I would expect nothing less. There were really only two or three people who continually pushed an argument I found repulsive. You weren't one of them, and I hope you don't think I'm accusing you of such. Those same few names I mentioned do seem to pop up and push the same line whenever this kind of subject is raised. At least that's the way I perceive it.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #298

299. got it.

thanks for your post. i dont see a lot of room to battle when it is opposing abuse. it is simple for me. i dont like it. that thread was a while ago and i got into it too late and then stayed out. i know it kept going, so.... when anger gets to such a point and there is no longer a chance of understanding, i dont play :thumbsup:

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #273

282. You are right. It's the same crew in both threads.

It's very sick.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #282

284. no. it isnt sick. there was purposeful obtuseness with what women were saying

in that thread. whether wanting to address their argument or not, they were making a valid argument, as you men were. but you men refused to recognize what was being said or acknowledge it for agenda purpose. i wasnt in it. so though i am in this post, and people like to say i am a "man hater", i am not fitting that mode. but we wont address that, or the reasons either. too complex. much easier to reduce it to what you guys are reducing it too now on the other hand i much better understand where you all are coming from. has been insightful and useful to me. raising two boys it is a good thing. but i will also be using the area that you are purposely being obtuse not to understand, learn, grow and heal with my boys

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:04 AM Response to Reply #284

287. Yes, it's sick. Very, very, very sick.

Hopefully, those who engage in such will seek help from mental health experts. And please stop using the term "you men," as if we all speak with the same voice. That's more gender based broadbrushing.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:32 AM Response to Reply #287

292. ah fuck

if you cant be reasonable enough to understand where i am coming from, trying to peel the onion, without being so damn sensitive. i am talking about the men on this thread, you being one, that is having a certain perspective, just as you are doing with a group of women, or handful..... what about all the men on the thread and other threads that immediately say, yea gang rape. adn is almost always men using the prison rape humor. why am i not seeing you go after your fellow male.

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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:48 AM Response to Original message

12. and these women are in their forties?

idiots.

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #12

86. real catches

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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #12

171. Full Criminal Complaint:

Criminal Complaint for Therese Ziemann http://www.nbc26.com/Global/story.asp?S=10838114&nav=menu1454_10_9_4

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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 05:20 AM Response to Original message

17. My immediate reaction was laughter...

After my gut reaction stopped, I realized that this is kind of fucked up.

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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #17

133. Kind of?

The outrage if a man had done something similar to a woman would be - rightfully - immediate and deafening. There would be no laughter, not even momentary in nature.

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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:31 AM Response to Original message

22. I don't approve (in theory)

But as a woman who was been the victim of a cheating dog who can't keep it in his pants, well let's just say I don't think they'd want me on the jury.

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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #22

27. sick

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #22

115. So it is ok

if my wife cheats and I glue her vagina?

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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:54 AM Response to Reply #115

278. in our society

1. If you cheat on your wife, it is your fault because you are not taking your relationship seriously. 2. If your wife cheats on you, it is your fault because you are not taking your relationship seriously.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #278

281. is this the male talking point? it is stupid.

if a male cheats on his wife he is doing it cause he cant help himself his dna biological spreading his seed boys will be boy he is applauded and patted on back and called a "man" i guess it depends on if we want to validate bad behavior or not. and if there is a need for validation, one might ask why it is needed it is much simpler to just give onus to the responsible party, equally

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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #281

317. is that the female talking point?

in what universe does anyone make those excuses?

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #317

318. a lot of guys on du????

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 08:59 PM by seabeyond now granted, hubby says they are either kids or validating their own behavior. but we get it often on edit.... gotta tell you though, you put a smile on my face telling me that is foreign to you

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Thu Aug-06-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #318

324. LOL... no shit. "In what universe"

:rofl:

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22

189. that's why voir dire is so important--some folks don't belong in some juries

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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:58 AM Response to Original message

23. You know, I'm not sure how I feel about that.

It is funny as hell on one level - but Krazy Glue is kind of rough. Sounds like he deserved it either way.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #23

24. He deserved it? He deserved to be imprisoned, tied up, beaten, and sexually assaulted?

And you would feel the same if a husband and three men who were having affairs with the man's wife did this to her? Would she deserve it, too?

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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #24

26. Okay, let me rephrase that.

He deserved to be confronted. The Krazy Glue was over the top - that's just evil. But he is obviously an asshole.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #26

28. I agree that he deserves to be divorced, berated, and exposed.

They couldn't go on Maury Povich to express their disdain? Frankly, they look like a rough bunch, and it's not likely their first use of excessive violence.

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #23

36. I have no doubts at all

It was a violent physical attack and calls for severe criminal penalties.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #23

293. a woman is runing on her hubby, he beats the shit out of her, she deserves it.

what the hell are you talking about, he deserves it. what the fuck kind of answer is that? surely, in thought, you dont believe that.

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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:26 AM Response to Original message

31. All I can say is

:popcorn: Why'd I even look at this thread?

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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #31

32. At least no one's yet posted "this thread is useless without pictures." nt

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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #32

35. Just so yall know, if you're a guy and somebody does this to you

or if you're a gal and get your fingers stuck together while trying to superglue/crazyglue something, nail polish remover will get it off. It doesn't work easily and quickly, the way it does when you're taking off nail polish, but continued application and rubbing and it does come off.

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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #35

166. Hmmmm....

I don't think a lot of rubbing would help his situation... probably make it even more painful!

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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #166

251. yup. I don't want any unnecessary expansion while it's stuck in place.

The thought of that makes me cringe.

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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #32

93. Well if you have seen pictures of the alleged assailants you aren't really begging for more

But since you asked: and here is the wife

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #93

100. mp takes video of women soldiers in shower. the victim, the women are the ones males were demanding

to see the pictures. worthless without pictures and video. the point would be, the insensitive and stupid woman would jump on this thread demanding to see the picture of the victim, the man with a glued penis.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #100

108. Yes, that would be the analogy.

But how often is it women making that comment about threads being useless without pictures?

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #108

114. hm. thinking. nope. havent seen a single one. havent seen a single male challenge another male

when the guy does it either. have seen females go after the poster. but never a male.

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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #114

130. I did once.

But I can't be on every thread.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #108

116. Good point.

Hardly ever, I suppose. At least not that I can remember.

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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #108

188. It WAS kind of useless without pics. But now that we have them...

we can nod to ourselves and understand why these women did what they did.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #188

194. What?

How does that work? IMO the reason why they did what they did is they're morons... violent morons.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #194

196. mine was more.... wtf? nt

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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #194

218. I forgot the sarcasm emoticon. n/t

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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #188

309. "we can nod to ourselves and understand why these women did what they did"? I don't

please explain it to me. Using small short words may help me understand since I am tired. I don't understand why they did this.

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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #309

312. Lol, I was being sarcastic.

Some story breaks in the news, then as it unfolds pics appear. Not so much here, but elsewhere you get the inevitable comments along the lines of "Well, just LOOK at him/her/them. It's no WONDER." Or "That person LOOKS batshit crazy. Figures." That kind of thing. Truth is though, all kinds of people commit crimes. These ladies are not physically attractive, but Lorena Bobbit was. Paul Bernardo didn't "look" as though he needed to rape anybody. Hope you can sneak a nap. :)

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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #93

180. All I can say to those pics is "Ewwwww" n/t

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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #32

132. We have our first entry

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3999596#3999921

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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message

38. It's a shame they had to deal with that cheat and louse in a criminal way

While he gets little sympathy for me it doesn't help there cause and now they will probably end up doing jail time. But I wonder if this scared this serial cheater straight? doubt it.

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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #38

54. They didn't have to do anything

They could have just stopped talking to him.

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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #38

73. yes, clearly thats the biggest shame, that they had ot act this way

because whats important is how they where "forced" to act.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #73

205. Hey. It can't be THEIR fault. You know the rules.

If he's cheating ... it's HIS fault. If she's cheating ... it's HIS fault. If they attack him ... it's HIS fault. We shouldn't have to go over this. Anything bad that happens is the man's fault, and anything the woman does, well, he made her do it by being insensitive and unsupportive.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #205

207. oh bullshit. how many threads do we hear excuses for men cheating. men coming on here

and on and on and on about how fine it is, and the jokes, and everything else at the wife's expense

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #205

212. *roffle*

Are you insane? Oh no... I get it... you're resorting to hyperbole due to outrageitis. I see that a lot around here. Hope you feel better soon.

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message

39. I can't feel sorry for him

He tried to have his cake and eat it too, so to speak.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #39

48. Would you be able to feel sorry for a woman whose vagina was super glued by her husband?

Does a cheating wife deserve to have her vagina super glued? She's having her cake and eating it, too, to use your words.

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #48

59. Women are already punished in this fashon

Acid attacks, genital mutilation. It's already happening now. Has for generations. And for much less of an infraction than stepping out on one's partner. The fact that it has now happened to a man makes it suddenly worse somehow? How, exactly?

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #59

64. Then you WOULD be offended if this was done to a woman by her husband.

So would I, but I don't make excuses for women who commit heinous acts and try to rationalize it because somewhere a man is being equally mean to a woman. You're rationalizing horrific conduct by these women against this man because other women have been abused by other men.

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #64

72. It's not "horrific" to me

I reserve "horrific" for murder and dismemberment, and treatment of POWs, which didn't occur here. It was a degrading insult, certainly, but not horrific.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #72

80. Would it be horrific if the husband super glued the wife's labia?

You seem to be unable to treat the violence the same for a male victim as for a female victim. If you believe neither instance would be that big of a deal, say so. If you think it would be heinous if the victim is the wife, but not if the victim is the husband, say so.

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #80

87. No, I don't think it's heinous

and your outrage-o-meter needs serious recalibrating In either instance, a trip to the ER and the problem is solved. And btw, the stories healthcare personnel could tell about people having "fun" with other people's parts could shock you for decades. I think equating this with acid attacks and bridal murder is stupid. That is far, far worse. And many times, these girls did nothing more than being born in the wrong place. This guy had a lot of choices that he decided to make, badly.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #87

88. If you don't think labia being superglued isn't heinous,

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:32 AM by reflection then I respectfully submit your outrage-o-meter is the one that's out of whack. Although it doesn't rise to the level of acid attacks and bridal murders, I'm with TO on this one. (edit for grammar)

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #88

96. Agreed.

I don't address the other forms of domestic abuse or mutilation because those are red herring arguments. Certainly, they're worse as a matter of degree, but that kind of arguing is used to diminish a crime by comparing it to a worse crime. Anyone who can shrug off this criminal conspiracy and action should take a long, hard look at their values.

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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #96

163. As should those who believe...

"Anyone who can shrug off this criminal conspiracy and action should take a long, hard look at their values..." As should those who believe that one's reaction to one heinous act should be both predicated and based on one's reaction to another heinous act...

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #163

167. Anyone who can shrug off this criminal act should take a hard look at their values.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 01:28 PM by TexasObserver That remains true.

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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #167

168. As does, I believe my statement.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 01:28 PM by LanternWaste "That remains true..." As does I believe, my statement. ed: grmmr

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #87

92. Thankfully, your point of view doesn't prevail in such matters.

It's a crime, and should be treated as a crime. You're minimizing a serious crime, a crime that involved tying up a victim, beating him, and super gluing his genitals.

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #87

120. I guess that makes you stupid then.

You posted "Acid attacks, genital mutilation. It's already happening now. Has for generations. And for much less of an infraction than stepping out on one's partner." Then you post "I think equating this with acid attacks and bridal murder is stupid." So you are admitting you are stupid? I agree. See, we can get along.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #120

221. "So you are admitting you are stupid?"

It looks like you are admitting you don't know much about the issues or understood what was said. Are you aware or concerned about women's rights and social justice issues, in this country and around the world? Or are those things you don't know much about? :hi:

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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #87

279. same with a gunshot wound

mosey on over to your friendly local ER and they'll patch you up in time for dinner!

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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #59

76. well, according to you its been acceptable all along then

lets keep it up.

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #59

118. No one is saying this is worse

We are saying that it is EQUALLY reprehensible and the offenders should be punished harshly. Do you not agree with that?

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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #39

90. And you hate men

And support violence

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #90

99. Yes, of course I do

:sarcasm:

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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #39

176. Me either.

He deserved to be made a laughing stock. The idiot also consented to being tied up and blindfolded. Total moron.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #176

208. He was bound, gagged, beaten, threatened with a gun, and had his genitals glued.

So if a woman who was having affairs had this done to her by her husband, would she "deserve to made the laughing stock"? Would she be an idiot and a total moron? Or do you only find men deserving of this kind of criminal abuse?

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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #176

256. So you will of course feel no sympathy for any woman who might have this happen to her

if she cheats, correct? Or is more of the bs that women can hit men but God forbid a man hit back? Feminism is not about establishing a new and improved double standard.

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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #256

301. A man can never "hit back."

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 10:58 AM by chrisa That would be pathetic. Men are physically stronger, and thus can physically restrain her or run away. Of course, obviously if she's holding a knife or something, yes. However, there are few circumstances where I feel anybody deserves to be hit, even if they weren't the first to do the hitting. I just can't feel sorry for this guy. He wasn't a good person. It's horrible what happened to him, but he was not a good person either. Not saying he deserved it, but I just can't give him my sympathy, no matter what the gender.

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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #301

316. Then women in this story are not good people either.

I hope they see some jail time.

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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message

40. It's all fun & games until someone gets their dick glued.

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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #40

42. LOL!

Pass the fuzzy handcuffs, please. :D ;rofl:

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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #40

60. LMAO

It's too early for this shit. :rofl:

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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #40

94. that's why we never allow crazy glue in our house

Elmers just peels off after it gets dry.

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #40

105. it stopped being fun & games for the ladies prior to that

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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message

46. More "torture is ok in this case" posts

that never cease to amaze me.

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #46

191. goes with the intensity of 'smacking it down'

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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message

49. substitute the crazy glue with honey and it just might work for me...

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message

65. Nothing Short Of Jail Time Is Satisfactory For Those Psychos.

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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #65

77. is that the title to a book?

whats with the cap on every word?

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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #77

91. I'm Doing A Study To Prove That Title Case Irritates Stupid People.

Thanks for your contribution to the cause.

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #91

95. deleted

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:50 AM by redqueen

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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #91

106. Glad to see your trying to help your people

I hope you also find other problems that cause strife on your planet.

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #91

123. Hahahahaha! Thats funny!

Can I use that sometime?

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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message

67. The wife would have done herself justice

and taken the high road at the same time had she filed for divorce first then when the court date arrived have the other three women walk in and testify to this guys extra-marital affairs with him. Wife = slam dunk Now the four of them are just plain criminals which, IMHO, makes their characters far worse than a cheater.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #67

74. And if they have any children, he'll likely get custody now.

Child custody judges aren't moved by infidelity. They are moved by personal violence against a spouse. The wife should have kicked the husband out and revealed his infidelities, and all the women should have heaped disdain on him, in the manner women have long heaped such disdain on men who have philandered. This was simply a criminal conspiracy by some women who are probably not new to criminal actions.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #74

78. I'm still trying to figure out

why the women were so mad that this man was "cheating" on them, when he was already cheating on his wife with them. :shrug:

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #78

81. That's easy. They're morons.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:34 AM by redqueen Brutal, vicious morons.

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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #74

84. I know that If I were a judge I wouldn't give custody

of children to anyone that used personal violence against their spouse. Gawd.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #84

98. That's how most judges view it.

Infidelity is a terrible breach of one's duty to a spouse or significant other. The penalty for infidelity is divorce, separation and/or the ending of the emotional and sexual relationship. That's what it deserves and should get, unless the person cheated on prefers to work it out. But domestic violence should never be accepted, by any partner in any relationship. That's true of gay, straight, or bi couples. Hitting a partner is not acceptable. Tying up a partner is not acceptable, unless that's their kink. Family courts abhor personal violence by parents against anyone, as well they should.

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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #74

125. Actually, they are moved by infidelity.

I have full and complete custody of my son because his father was a cheating lout. Maybe you need better judges in Texas.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #125

128. my brother got full custody of his daughter cause the mother proved the same. it happens.

:)

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #125

129. No, not usually. If you got custody, it was because you're more responsible.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 12:11 PM by TexasObserver It's likely that your ex has a bundle of behaviors that reveal you to be the better parent. While his infidelity is certainly one aspect of his lack of parental maturity, he's likely lacking in other ways, too. He probably isn't as nurturing as you, doesn't take parenting as seriously, and fails to commit the time and effort you do. Giving you custody was likely an easy choice. If you were a drunk, or a druggie, or a violent person with the kids, you wouldn't have custody, even if you were as pious as Henry the VIII's first wife.

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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message

68. Posted at least four times already.

Just stop.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #68

111. Each thread is a conversation among those in it. This is one.

Do you walk up to conversations others are having and tell them to stop talking because you talked about that topic with someone else last night, and you don't want anyone else talking about it again? Use HIDE THREAD if you can't stop yourself from clicking on threads of no interest to you.

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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #111

185. And the OP needs to use search thread to see if it hasn't been

done to death already. But, go ahead and be a scold.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #185

186. No, you need to use HIDE THREAD or resist the urge to scold others.

Why won't everyone here do what you tell them to do? That's so rude not do what you want when you're peeved. How dare they?! It's a conversation. Butt out if you don't want to be in it.

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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message

69. People need to get a life and realize that other people fucking doesn't make them a victim

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #69

195. but that ignores the power of the penis--you act like these women are a feminist Taliban

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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message

75. Why aren't these women charged with a sexual battery??? nt

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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message

82. Supposed to be Monogamous Cheating?

So was this guy supposed to be in a Monogamous Cheating relationship with each of the three women? :shrug:

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #82

97. The women probably didn't know about each other before.

The mistresses knew about the wife, of course... but guys always have a sob story for that (e.g. "She just doesn't understand me, but you're different!") to get them to think there's a 'good reason' for his behavior.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #97

101. nah.... no sympathy for the women with a cheater either. none. nada. nt

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #101

102. Ah no, if you got sympathy from my post, you misread.

I'm just explaining how mistresses rationalize fucking around with a married man... that doesn't mean I feel sympathy for them. They're idiots. And these examples (and the wife) are vicious, brutal idiots.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #102

107. right on.... nt

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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message

89. He got off easy.

Ask Steve McNair. I think we're entering a new era where women are not taking emotional abuse/cheating as lightly as in the past. I would never condone the actions of those women--I think it's horrible--but I'm just making an observation on the changing times.

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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #89

173. You must be kidding. Or are 18 years old.

People have been killing and brutalizing each other over love gone wrong since the beginning of time. Women have just been more cunning about it since we lack the muscle to fat ratio, and have less testosterone in our systems, to be complete animals about it. Someday you should watch 'Dolores Claibourne.'

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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message

110. They should have planned a nonviolent event, like putting his face on

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:33 AM by Ilsa a billboard as an example of an STD carrier. It might actually be a public health service.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #110

112. 1. Call CHEATERS 2. Wait until they show up 3. Get it on tape

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 11:54 AM by TexasObserver They could have easily exposed this lying loser to the world, but they chose to be judge, jury and torturer. They could have revealed him as a jerk to the whole world. Instead, they keep his name and face out of it, as a victim of sexual assault.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message

121. Great the anti male crowd out in force

Love the fucking double standard in DU. Jokes about torture for men, funny. Jokes about any implied violence towards women is never tolerated. Once again the unevolved show their true colors.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #121

155. Yes, it's unfortunate, but true.

That they are so brazen about it reveals their knowledge that vile speech against men is tolerated in a way such speech would never be tolerated against women. Neither should be acceptable.

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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #121

169. Yup. Jokes Against Women Are NEVER Tolerated

Never http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6062558

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #169

184. Thank you!

I'm sure we've all heard of 'selective hearing'... some in this thread are demonstrating some very selective remembering / seeing.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #121

172. Post #3 turned this into a thread By, For and About Males. Bringing out the much-maligned male crowd

:hi: Your peevishness is comical.

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Tue Aug-04-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #172

174. Deleted message

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #174

217. Just dropped by

for a personal attack, Gwendolyn, or did you have something worthwhile to say?

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #172

231. Funny thing about you Omega is

that you have become that which you hate. I tend to believe humans have both masculine and feminine qualities, true, created by pre and modern culture, but in terms of my interaction with you, you seem to embody the negative masculine. I find that ironic and funny.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #231

248. "Ironic and funny" is you can't see the "negative masculine" expression is what Post #172 points up

And I don't "hate." So please, let's talk after you've worked on your Big Picture perspective, what you think the Big Picture really is and how balanced a role and a POV you want to help your son reach.

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #248

266. Can I get a translator?

bueller, bueller, anyone? Stop pointing to posts as some sort of justification of your point... Make your point. I don't care what other people say, I will address #172 if I think it is necessary or if I want to, but you seem to ignore the obvious, all to fit your worldview, no?

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #266

270. Can I get a translator?

I did make my point. In that post. Directly above. Which you responded to. Your reply made no sense. It attempted to personally attack me. You ignore the obvious. If it was a snake, it woulda bitcha.

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #121

260. Yes - disgusting is the only word for it...

notice all the usual posters, too... and we wonder where they get fodder for the idiots like limpballs to scream "feminazi"...

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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message

136. There was a case like this in Florida, too

and my parents knew the guy. He needed extensive plastic surgery on his equipment, and she'd been a little kinder, gluing the separate parts together while he was sleeping. My parents could never figure it out, said the guy looked and sounded like a half wit pig farmer. He did get girlfriends and those girlfriends did get jealous.

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litlady (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message

137. Wow, didn't know this would get such a long reaction...

just posted it because Conan made a joke about it.

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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message

138. Wow, talk about a sticky situation! WOOO!!

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message

143. All That and they forgot to staple a Bag O' Chips to his forehead.

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 12:40 PM by omega minimo

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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #143

147. Ah, again with the support for sexual violence.

How deliciously hypocritical.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #147

152. Ah, again with trying to make trouble, like too many of the posters in this thread

Your pretensions don't alter the clearly absurd post in a clearly, absurdly, pre-hijacked thread. Methinks they doth protest too much.

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:32 AM Response to Reply #143

274. It's amazing to me that you can't see how sick that is.

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 04:47 AM by Marr You seem to be incapable of turning this situation around in your mind and asking how you'd feel if the genders were reversed. Or maybe you're just fine with the double standard.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #274

315. "All that and a bag o' chips" -- Perhaps you've heard the phrase. The post is not serious.

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 03:53 PM by omega minimo "It's amazing to me that you can't see how sick that is." Posted by Marr "You seem to be incapable of turning this situation around in your mind and asking how you'd feel if the genders were reversed. Or maybe you're just fine with the double standard." You seem to be spewing some generic remark and seem to be projecting irrelevantly. The people making these false accusations are pissing all over the topic, the thread/s, the people who might have a discussion if one was allowed. All those who want to claim "hypocrisy" or "double standard" in this regard (the humor/barbs/flames that come out before and after they try to strongarm other DUers' replies) had better take a good, hard HONEST look at the things that are said about women (and other marginalized groups) and women's issues on this board EVERY DAY. In that context/environment, the notion that those sort of posts would be absent because the topic is a male being assaulted? That's not very realistic, is it. The more that DUers make the board a respectful place for everyone, the less often (some) men will discover how (some) women (and other mariginalized groups) feel when these constant comments are directed at them or at their expense. And no, that is not another "back atcha" attitude. It's the opposite. Creating a healthy, repsectful sane environment for discussion is in all our interests.

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #315

321. The problem isn't that people don't *get* the joke,

Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 12:03 AM by Marr ... it's that your *making* a joke. Whatever-- I'm not interested in arguing an obvious point with you. Deny it if you like.

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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #274

319. Its amazing you can't see how sickening your "more moral than thou"

attitude is. You just show up and preach it. :puke:

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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #319

320. You again?

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 11:49 PM by Marr Get used to everyone seeming holier than thou. "Thou" set the bar very low.

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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #143

322. what a nasty thing to write.

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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message

145. YOU GO GIRLS!!!1!

I'm just kidding... Save yer outrage. I do admit I find it amusing though... At the same time, I know I would find it more twisted and sick if a man did it to a female... I know it's a double standard and I can't really explain why I feel that way... Similar to when a 25 year woman teacher sleeps with a 15 year old male student, as opposed to vise-versa.

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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #145

150. Thank you for admitting your hypocrisy.

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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #145

182. Having given the matter some thought...

I would be outraged if it were a man/men doing the same thing to a woman too, even though I find it pretty humorous that the women did it to the man. Why... Because men are the ones with most of the power in this world. Except for matriarchal societies, but those are the minority. Porn, featuring women...perpetrated by men and distributed for the sexual pleasure of other men. Snuff films...in which people (probably including other men) are tortured and killed...for the sicko viewing pleasure of other men. Men (more so than women) molesting/sexually abusing little kids Men measuring their "machismo" by impregnating as many unknowing women as possible. Most men are good and decent people. I've known many good and decent men in my life. But some are absolute pigs. And the pig who slept with four women deserved what he got. He thought he could get away with it because he's a MAN. Well I hope he's picking Krazy glue off his willy for a long time to come. :7

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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #182

192. but you'd be outraged if a female had been superglued when she thought she could get away with it?

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #145

234. At least you admit your double standard

But I see your point in regards to the teacher scenario. I There is a double standard there but I am not talking about a sexual fantasy, I am talking about laughing about what we would consider torture if done to anyone else. This guy sounds like a real prick and I think this is a case of karma, but I do not relish in it or defend it like some have done in here, throwing many straw men (women) arguments to justify this act.

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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message

149. So they get angry when he cheats on them but its okay with them that ...

he is cheating on his wife? They should all do prison time. I think they are probably a threat to society and have some deep social problems. Now the assumption I'm making is that each of the three knew he was married, which I don't think is too much of a stretch. His fault, other than cheating on his wife, is being attracted to sociopaths.

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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #149

175. At least one is claiming that she didn't know he was married

They are all facing jail time for false imprisonment, a felony, and one was charged with sexual assault. http://www.kentucky.com/513/story/883866.html

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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message

158. He can be glad Lorena Bobbit wasn't there with her knife.

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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message

161. John Bobbitt: "He got off easy."

Bet this guy doesn't cheat on his wife again.

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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message

181. They should have used this glue..

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 02:11 PM by SoCalDem :rofl:

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Curtland1015 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message

183. I've heard of "coming unglued" but this is ridiculous!

WOKKA WOKKA WOKKA!!! :hide:

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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message

203. Gross overreaction on their part.

Yeah, he was an asshole with a bad case of testosterone poisoning, but their revenge was disproportionate to the offense.

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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message

210. Is this the same guy charged with "repeated sexual assault of a child"

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=wi&vol=2009%5C36279&invol=2

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:30 PM Response to Original message

211. Should DU take up a collection to send flowers to this victim of sexual assault?

This poor man, whose only fault is he loves too much, was violated in a terrible way. Gang assaulted, humiliated, and made to feel less than. Should DU take up a collection to buy him roses? Should he be sent healing energy?

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #211

213. "whose only fault is he loves too much"

Um... yeah. You might wanna consider taking a break.

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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #211

214. That's a great idea! I found the perfect flowers too

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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #214

224. The Corpse flower!

I've heard it really stinks.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #211

227. What a monumentally

malicious post. :thumbsdown:

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #227

232. Why don't you have compassion for victims of sexual assault?

He deserves our support. Liberals abhor sexual assault and support victims of sexual assault, whoever they may be. We support them even when they're prostitutes or philanderers.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #232

246. It's a sick game you're playing. I hope the healing energy helps you.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #246

247. I'm being rational and committed to ideals we all claim to share.

I'm actually committed to them. You should think about recommitting to the ideals. When you lack empathy for a sexual assault victim, something is amiss.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #247

249. No. You're not.

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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #249

262. Yes - he is - it's quite a very simple case, too...

Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 10:49 PM by TankLV not surprised your HYPOCRISY doesn't let you see it...

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #262

264. You can't see that post

is completely sarcastic? He knows what he's doing. And you're calling me a hypocrite. Stop the insanity.

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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #264

302. So you're saying you disagree with the sarcasm.

So you really do support sending him flowers?

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #302

310. I disagree with

Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 01:25 PM by omega minimo maliciousness. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6214926&mesg_id=6221006

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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #310

311. So then you're going to send the victim some flowers?

Or at least healing energy?

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #311

313. I'm sending him warm, healing energy.

Either that, or I just farted. It's a gas, ain't it?

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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #211

237. Although I see your point clearly and you are making it clearly

but I do not like this man. I do not support his humiliation and torture, but I will not send him flowers. Your point is that depending upon what tribe you subscribe to, if you identify the "enemy", torture becomes funny. That is the enemy right there.

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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #237

243. If one is a progressive, one opposes sexual assault and domestic violence.

If one merely espouses those ideals when the victim is someone with whom they identify, that's not being progressive. That's just being shallow and without any real ideological standards at all.

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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #237

250. Clearly

sarcastically, attacking the feminine in several different ways, there. Big Picture, Bone Daddy, Big Picture.

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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #211

269. If we don't we obviously are all man haters.

:eyes:

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ncteechur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message

222. Trying to love 2...no, 3....no, 4 women is like a ball and chain.

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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message

225. This thread went well.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #225

226. I know. Go figure.

I assumed everyone would stand around in a circle, hold hands, and whisper encouraging things to each other. :D

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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Tue Aug-04-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message

233. Ah...the liguid poor mans viagra

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Tue Aug-04-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message

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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:33 AM Response to Original message

267. Fingernail polish (Acetone) takes off superglue.

If they really wanted to do it right they would have used a commercial two part contact adhesive from 3M - would have been a lot harder to un do. :rofl:

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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #267

268. Shhhhh, don't give them any ideas.

The PC police will go after you too. :D

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:47 AM Response to Reply #268

283. no. they wont go after this poster cause it does not fit their agenda. he is a guy joking about

this. and all the males who are making jokes, more so than the females, .... like you, are being ignored and only about the female poster. their own hypocrisy in arguing their points, even though valid

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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #283

307. "their own hypocrisy in arguing their points, even though valid"

And this is what makes this kind of discussion so sadly pointless... because people will use the unfairness displayed by some people on 'the other side' to justify their own unfairness. And round and round it goes.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #307

308. And round and round it goes........... exactly. nt

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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 01:35 AM Response to Original message

271. I read that story on the net before I went to work.

I also read it aloud to my hubby. The look on his face was priceless. I later told a co-worker about the story. She liked it and laughed.

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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #271

285. why would someone laugh at abusing another person. strapping down, making powerless

and abusing another? i dont get that at all

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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 03:49 AM Response to Original message

272. This thread is good for one thing at least.

I now know even more hypocritical fucksticks than I did when I started reading it. And it's always good to be aware of where the idiots are, just in case one goes off beside you.

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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 04:44 AM Response to Original message

277. Reminds me of an old Ann Landers radio spot

She used to be right after Arthur Godfrey on CBS. She read a letter from a man (Bewildered in Minneapolis), whose wife had discovered his affair. After confronting the mistress, both women started hanging out together. "What's cooking?" "Dear Bewildered: Probably your goose." Still, Krazy Glue is way over the top. Why not just ream him out verbally? He would surely have gotten the point.

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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 07:45 AM Response to Original message

295. Well, Grovelbot finally got some company.

He's been locked up in solitary confinement on my ignore list for awhile. I figured I would send him a buddy to play with. Life is good. :D

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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message

304. And my threads get chased to the lounge because they aren't political enough

:eyes:

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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Wed Aug-05-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message

305. assault is assault and they should be prosecuted. eom

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