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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:35 PM
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Eating Our Own (or Throwing Stones at Glass Houses)
It's disconcerting to look at the forums here on DU—imagine the first time visitor coming here and seeing people complaining that a millionaire bought a huge house or a Senator hasn't apologized about voting for the war or many other things that can be seen here of late. We are figuratively eating our own.

These politicians may not be exactly who we'd like them to be but they are who we have right now—and we were very happy with all of them in November. The one thing it seems the repugs have over the dems is actually banding together as a voting force, right or wrong, they are a clan. I'm not suggesting we give up our individuality in thought, to the contrary—all I'm suggesting is that we realize we are a team and need to act like one. This shouldn't be a party of me, me, me but we, we, we. We're a diverse people who have different ideologies and goals but lets realize this and come together as a team and fight for everyone's ideals.

None of the candidates that are hopefuls for 2008 are without fault. They all have made mistakes, none of them think or act exactly as we'd like and most certainly none of them are perfect nor are any of us. I don't agree with half of the things I see on these forums be it doesn't serve our greater purpose to look like a bunch of people who can't come together to get things done.

We have two years to band together as a party and a people to do what we can to fix what's wrong with this country in 2008 and there's a lot that needs to be done in the interim. Could time not be better spent by debating what we need for 2008 and how we're going to get it realized instead of starting thread after thread after thread about Edward's house or Hillary's stance on the war. Could time not be better spent by making sure our current Congress does what they need to do to try to stop the flow of blood right now?
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:37 PM
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1. Bill Clinton's Modest Home - The Standards Seem To Be Changing
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/06/first.lady/index.html

President off to Washington, Hillary remains in New York as commuter marriage begins

January 6, 2000
Web posted at: 2:05 a.m. EST (0705 GMT)

CHAPPAQUA, New York (CNN) -- The moving vans are being unpacked, and on Thursday, President Bill Clinton heads back to Washington, leaving first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton to settle into their new home and prepare for her campaign for the New York Senate.

It is the start of a modern commuter marriage, with the first lady setting up a new home in a white $1.7 million house in a cul-de-sac in the wealthy hamlet north of New York City, while her husband remains at the White House. On Wednesday, the Clintons had their first meal at the new house, where they both plan to live after Clinton leaves office in January, 2001.

Their furniture and other goods arrived from Washington in two moving vans. "Like any new homeowners, they're excited," White House spokesman Joe Lockhart said after the couple arrived. Joining them was Mrs. Clinton's mother, Dorothy Rodham.

Snip ......

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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:37 PM
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2. No warmonger is "my own". I'll do my best to keep another one from taking us
into more disasters.ENOUGH WARS!!!!!
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bdrube Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:48 PM
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3. Well put. One doesn't come within a million miles of the other.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:48 PM
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4. We can afford war OR Health Care and Climate Change reforms
not both. It would be nice to know that we are putting somebody up for president who might have an appropriate sense of proportion.

When government becomes by, for and of the wealthy people are forced to take matters into their own hands. We don't want that to be the case in the US.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:58 PM
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6. Universal Healthcare Will SAVE Money
Virtually every other industrialized country in the world has single-payer universal healthcare. They spend far LESS on healthcare, per person, than we do. Yet their medical care is measurably as good or better than ours.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 11:52 PM
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5. It's Very Healthy
People keep complaining that they voted for X because they sucked less than the Republican that X ran against.

If we want to have candidates that are truly good, we need to call people out on their mistakes. Then, and only then, will our primaries change from being a contest of who can triangulate best, or who has the best hair, to a contest over who has a record of getting good things done for the average American.

We need good judgement, not good hair.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-28-07 12:13 AM
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7. So long as the houses aren't solar, I think we're ok?
:P

In all honesty, it gets much much worse during the primaries.
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