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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:48 PM
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Freshman Congressman physically assaulted
http://thinkprogress.org/

As lobbyist-run groups encourage conservative activists to “rattle” members of Congress at local town hall events, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA), the president of the freshman Democratic class has revealed that “at least one freshman Democrat” has already been “physically assaulted at a local event” by right-wing activists. Connolly warned that conservative groups had taken things to a “dangerous level“:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:49 PM
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1. That's it, time to start rounding them up
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 01:49 PM by WeDidIt
If they go off in a meeting, arrest every damned one of them.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:56 PM
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17. Protesters were escorted from Sen. Baucus's hearings without hesitation
Why are these thugs allowed to go this far?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:49 PM
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2. Shouting people down and physical violence too? This is facism plain and simple.
:rant:
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:51 PM
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7. erm so is rojnding people up and locking them away as advocated
i cant beleive that people are happy to have bush tactics as long as its the other guy getting it..
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:55 PM
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15. The moment they go off in a public meeting, it's assault.
If they resort to physical violence, it's also battery.

Anybody committing assault (and make no mistake, we already have tapes of people assaulting the Congresspersons), needs to be rounded up and locked up.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:22 PM
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28. Every one is a hate crime
THey start shooting next.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:04 PM
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23. are they advocating locking people up who are not in violation of any laws?
or are you just a contrarian here?
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:12 PM
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25. I'll take Option 2 for 500, Alex. (nt)
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:27 PM
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29. mayby im someone who sees the hypocrasy on DU right now
it was only a short year ago that DU was advocating civil disobedience and shouting down the pubs and now its all about locking up anyone who disagrees with you, i cant believe people cant see this...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:35 PM
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33. then why did you respond to me and not the people that are doing it?
i complained about fascist behavior, i didn't say anything about locking people up.

i've talked to you before, so i have a little less patience this time.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:38 PM
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34. I don't care if they use those tactics to disrupt.
I would like to see a better effort from the representatives in exposing them for what they are. Let them spout, but call them out. Pre-empt their screaming by warning everyone what is coming and who is behind it. If they start yelling, ask if they are a constituent. If they don't allow the town hall to proceed, escort them out. They have a right to speak, but not an unlimited right to disrupt. I'm not talking about rounding anyone up, or setting up 'free speech zones'. Just remove the most noxious ones for being disruptive.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:21 PM
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27. I'm shocked that you're advocating for the thugs!
:rofl:
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:29 PM
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30. As i said just like code pink i think disruptors damage their cause, at least with me
but at least i am consistant in my thinking they are all dumb, i dont change just because of the colour of the flag being carried..
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:32 PM
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31. Uh, they are starting to assault people. Its time to bring in the cops to keep from violence
escalating.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:49 PM
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40. you came into a thread about a congressman getting physically assaulted to complain about hypocrisy?
do you have problems?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:09 PM
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43. Nobody like Code Pink could get into rightwing events very easily.
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 03:12 PM by mmonk
Also, they are excorted out immediately and sometimes with force no matter the venue. Also, proposing healthcare reform has nothing to do nor reference point with war, torture, breaking laws by elected officials, etc.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:07 PM
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42. Really? But you support beating protesters up?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5377510&mesg_id=5377513


vadawg (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-02-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10

23. my issue is when people goe after individuals then complain when said individuals pay for hard ass

security to punch aforementioned individuals in the face. Personally if i was the banker and had threats against me then i would have top flight security to kick seven bells out of any protester who comes near me.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:10 PM
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44. punked me there, but i still say that disrupting a public meetigng is a million miles from threaten
a banker who needs to hire security for his safety, but im impressed that the machine is working hard to keep everyone on message... shame you cant see the difference in the two situations. Though when it gets physical then arrests need to be made, whether its righties, save the whales, code pink or any group....
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:15 PM
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45. But people are regularly removed from these meetings when they are disruptive
Left or right. I'm pretty sure anyone who does it KNOWS that's what is going to happen.

Doesn't mean I think anyone who is disruptive should simply be arrested. But if you are threatening or whipping up other people and causing a potentially dangerous situation, then yes, you should be arrested.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:35 PM
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46. my problem is, there are some advocating for political adversaries to be rounded up and jailed
and what imm afraid of, is who sets the level were arrests are to be made, surely the cop haters dont want the cops to decide, my fear is what happens when the sho is on the other foot, im not happy with even the idiots being silenced...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:50 PM
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3. Time to call the cops, people
Right wing nuts are at a flashpoint. They could start throwing punches and chairs at any second.

If there aren't enough police to escort the thugs out, then call the city cops to do it.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:59 PM
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19. Why aren't the cops there in the first place?
When protesters of Sen. Baucus's Senate hearings became vocal, they were ushered out immediately by police.

Why are there no police at these townhall meetings? Surely by now the police understand what a townhall meeting about universal, single-payer healthcare will bring in in terms of thugs and goons...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:41 PM
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48. They haven't been needed in the past
so the organizers wrongly ASSume they won't be needed now.

They just haven't paid enough attention to know that these are organized mobs that are bused from venue to venue.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:50 PM
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4. I think that police need to start getting involved
assault can be a felony
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:50 PM
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5. interrupting is not democracy...they are IMPEDING democracy
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:55 PM
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16. Quite right.
As Chris Hayes said yesterday, to Rachel, Democracy is the nonviolent revolution of political conflict.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:50 PM
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6. Who?
This doesn't have a whole lot of credibility if we don't know the Congressman's name.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:04 PM
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21. One would think that the source....
Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA), would make it a credible story. I would certainly like more details though.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:05 PM
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24. Until we have a name, count me as a skeptic
Maybe I'm just crabby at the bloggers for that "Palin divorce" nonsense of a few days ago.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:59 AM
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50. Two threads on the Greatest Page and none name the "assaulted Congressman" eom
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:51 PM
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8. Then he should press charges.
Make examples of these fuckers.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:52 PM
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9. There should be a police presence at every town hall meeting.
This is ridiculous.

And so complicit is the M$M, covering up the lobbyists behind the scenes, and downplaying the fact that these people are using intimidation as a political tool... any M$M newsreader who doesn't call it out is complicit.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:40 PM
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35. Police presence and fire marshal! n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:52 PM
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10. So much for a "vigorous exercise of democracy", in their words
The GOP is sponsoring terror
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:52 PM
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11. Police must be informed of EVERY 'town hall' event,
and expected to be there.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:52 PM
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12. Maybe it's time for the DNC to hire some people to bounce or arrest
those who assault others.

A**holes!
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:04 PM
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22. Maybe we could get some of those unemployed Halliburton
types on the payroll. They sure know how to handle things.

Seriously, every time there is a townhall the local police should be asked to provide security. If Clem and the boys don't wanna do it, call for the State Troopers. If they don't wanna do it get the FBI involved. And make sure there are several reliable people present to take continuous video of what takes place.

We really don't want to be hiring security thugs on our own. It is certain to backfire.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:52 PM
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13. Direct link...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:53 PM
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14. And will any M$M besides Keith & Rachel discuss this accurately?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:41 PM
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36. Do you really need to ask?
Even NPR last night was covering this as thought they were some sort of populist hero's.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:44 PM
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37. No...just came to mind. I rarely bother w/M$M, but have been impressed w/Keith/Rachel
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:58 PM
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18. Given that the threat of violence has already been sent out, it's time to go after them.
It's a federal crime to threaten Congressmembers, so it's time to stop coddling these hateful idiots.

Damn!

Placing a call to Rep. Connolly's office!

Toll-free Capitol Hill Numbers:

1-800-828-0498 1-866-388-1015 1-866-220-0044 1-877-851-6437
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:04 PM
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20. April, 2009: Department of Homeland Security: "Right wing extremism in the United States..."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:16 PM
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26. Who wouldda thunk?
:mad:

Arrest and prosecute all of them.
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parasearchers Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:34 PM
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32. lock them up
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM
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38. Lock them up raid their homes and take their guns
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:46 PM
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39. Yeah? So WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
Wait for krystalnacht and be surprised?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 02:53 PM
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41. These thugs are shutting down the democratic process like the Brown Shirts they emulate. This is...
... NOT about their freedom of speech, it's about them intimidating others into silence -- with the threat of violence always in the wings.

Those of us with eyes to see and ears to hear knew that the RW would not go quietly once Obama was elected. They don't give a damn about fair and democratic processes, as anyone who has been paying attention since Election 2000 knows. Our country's fate still stands on the edge of a knife, when it comes to the RW hate machine. We have GOT to be ready for them, and this example shows one way to do it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6215857

Tea Baggers FAIL to disrupt Health Care meeting, lessons shared.
Posted by Joanne98 on Tue Aug-04-09 07:09 AM
The Democratic Alliance of Northwest Indiana (DANI ) hosted a meeting with Rep. Pete Visclosky (D, IN-01), on Monday, Aug. 3, 6:30 PM. We invited the public and their written questions. It seems good to share with the Daily Kos readership some lessons we learned. <snip>

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/4/761608/-Tea-Baggers-FAIL-to-disrupt-Health-Care-meeting,-lessons-shared

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:36 PM
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47. You can't let the monster out of its cage and expect it to follow your bidding exactly
Monsters do monstrous things. It's the way of monsters.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 03:43 PM
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49. Press charges.
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