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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:27 PM
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Lanny Davis says the Honduran coup was legal - WTF?
Do they ever leave Washington, these revolving door types. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0709/S00549.htm">The Money Party never sleeps. There outht to be a law ...

Honduran Coup: The U.S. Connection

Conn Hallinan | August 6, 2009
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/6329

"If you want to understand who is the real power behind the coup, you need to find out who is paying Lanny Davis," says Robert White, former U.S. ambassador to El Salvador and current president of the Center for International Policy. Davis, best known as the lawyer who represented Bill Clinton during his impeachment trial, has been lobbying members of Congress and testifying before the House Foreign Affairs Committee in support of the coup.

According to Roberto Lovato, an associate editor at New American Media, Davis represents the Honduran chapter of CEAL, the Business Council of Latin America, which strongly backed the coup. Davis told Lovato, "I'm proud to represent businessmen who are committed to the rule of law."

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Davis claims that the coup was a "legal" maneuver to preserve democracy. But that's a hard argument to make, given some of its architects. One is Fernando Joya, a former member of Battalion 316, a paramilitary death squad. Joya fled the country after being charged with kidnapping and torturing several students in the 1980s, but he has now resurfaced as a "special security advisor" to the coup makers. He recently gave a TV interview that favorably compared the 1973 Chilean coup to the June 28 Honduran coup.

According to Greg Grandin, a history professor at New York University, the coup makers also included the extremely right-wing Catholic organization, Opus Dei, whose roots go back to the fascist regime of Spanish caudillo Francisco Franco.

In the old days, when the United States routinely overthrew governments that displeased it, the Marines would have gone in, as they did in Guatemala and Nicaragua, or the CIA would have engineered a coup by the local elites. No one has accused U.S. intelligence of being involved in the Honduran coup, and American troops in the country are keeping a low profile. But the fingerprints of U.S. institutions like the NED, USAID, and School for the Americas — plus bipartisan lobbyists, powerful corporations, and dedicated Cold War warriors — are all over the June takeover.

Conn Hallinan is a columnist for Foreign Policy In Focus.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:30 PM
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1. Unbelievable ..
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:34 PM
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4. How low they sink ... and shamelessly so n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:09 AM
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13. Absolutely
without conscience.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:31 PM
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2. If someone else paid him more, he would say just the opposite
He's the ultimate DLC'er, a real whore to moneyed interests.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:35 PM
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5. Isn't he, though. Maybe we could start a fund drive
But we'd never match the generosity of his supporters. They fail at everything and get trillions!
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:31 PM
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3. What is wrong with this man?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:36 PM
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7. Davis Derangement Syndrome;)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:36 PM
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6. I wonder what Davis' stake is in all this...
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:53 AM
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17. Perhaps he has connections to the coup that have not been exposed yet.
There are a number of secret societies that have their own agendas.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:47 PM
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8. I don't even know what to say anymore. The wealthy elites run the world, and everyone at the bottom.
suffers so that the few at the top can play their money and power games unimpeded.

sw
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:53 PM
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9. It's The Money Party in action
They could care less about anything except their next big payday. Selling out should go for a high price but so
many of them do it, I think there's a permanent discount for the financial elite and their minions.

It is simply disgusting that there's this level of disinformation out there ... But that's their stock in trade.
Lies and more lies ... it's a bipartisan affair, sadly.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:33 PM
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10. ah the money party is divided
not kidding.

Don't worry the same group is going after all the usual suspects, but it will change... slowly, fast, I don't know any more.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:42 PM
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11. This Buffoon Is Not Worthy Of Your Notice
He's so irrelevant he's almost invisible
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:16 AM
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16. What I don't understand is how this huckster insinutated himself
with the Clintons. They made his career possible.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:48 PM
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21. I Assume It's Because Of His Sister
Who was part of the administration
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:38 AM
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12. Opus Dei
Ground troops for the Knights of Malta. Same crew as in the 80's.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:13 AM
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14. The ubiquitious presence of the invisible hand
What a deal. These religious groups actually force their mythology on world events, creating conflicts and
other phenomena that they turnaround and use to justify their mythology.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:57 AM
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18. Politics based on mythology by right-wing reactionaries.
Subverting societies and controlling the masses since the stone age.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:29 PM
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30. Knowledge of Methods? n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:31 PM
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31. Been reading the family, and trust me starting to wonder
if the powers that be are organizations like the Family... not the OD. The OD is open, we know of them, are not secretive, but share enough of the ideology at the most basic of levels that they would gladly would do the bidding of our theocrats. After all, theocracy is theocracy, is theocracy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:15 AM
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15. Amy had him on this morning. What a disgusting reptile he is.
:puke:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:40 AM
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19. Here's an Email I received from John Perkins concerning this subject
John Perkins has lived four lives: as an economic hit man (EHM); as the CEO of a successful alternative energy company, who was rewarded for not disclosing his EHM past; as an expert on indigenous cultures and shamanism, a teacher and writer who used this expertise to promote ecology and sustainability while continuing to honor his vow of silence about his life as an EHM; and as a writer who, in telling the real-life story about his extraordinary dealings as an EHM, has exposed the world of international intrigue and corruption that is turning the American republic into a global empire despised by increasing numbers of people around the planet.


This seems to be ALL about workers receiving minimum wages.

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Email:

Speaking of Democracy, Honduras, and President Obama. . .

In writing my new book Hoodwinked (Random House, Nov 2009 publication date), I recently visited Central America. Everyone I talked with there was convinced that the military coup that had overthrown the democratically-elected president of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya, had been engineered by two US companies, with CIA support. And that the US and its new president were not standing up for democracy.

Earlier in the year Chiquita Brands International Inc. (formerly United Fruit) and Dole Food Co had severely criticized Zelaya for advocating an increase of 60% in Honduras’s minimum wage, claiming that the policy would cut into corporate profits. They were joined by a coalition of textile manufacturers and exporters, companies that rely on cheap labor to work in their sweatshops.

Memories are short in the US, but not in Central America. I kept hearing people who claimed that it was a matter of record that Chiquita (United Fruit) and the CIA had toppled Guatemala’s democratically-elected president Jacobo Arbenz in 1954 and that International Telephone & Telegraph (ITT), Henry Kissinger, and the CIA had brought down Chile’s Salvador Allende in 1973. These people were certain that Haiti’s president Jean-Bertrand Aristide had been ousted by the CIA in 2004 because he proposed a minimum wage increase, like Zelaya’s.

I was told by a Panamanian bank vice president, “Every multinational knows that if Honduras raises its hourly rate, the rest of Latin America and the Caribbean will have to follow. Haiti and Honduras have always set the bottom line for minimum wages. The big companies are determined to stop what they call a ‘leftist revolt’ in this hemisphere. In throwing out Zelaya they are sending frightening messages to all the other presidents who are trying to raise the living standards of their people.”

It did not take much imagination to envision the turmoil sweeping through every Latin American capital. There had been a collective sign of relief at Barack Obama’s election in the U.S., a sense of hope that the empire in the North would finally exhibit compassion toward its southern neighbors, that the unfair trade agreements, privatizations, draconian IMF Structural Adjustment Programs, and threats of military intervention would slow down and perhaps even fade away. Now, that optimism was turning sour.

The cozy relationship between Honduras’s military coup leaders and the corporatocracy were confirmed a couple of days after my arrival in Panama. England’s The Guardian ran an article announcing that “two of the Honduran coup government's top advisers have close ties to the US secretary of state. One is Lanny Davis, an influential lobbyist who was a personal lawyer for President Bill Clinton and also campaigned for Hillary. . . The other hired gun for the coup government that has deep Clinton ties is (lobbyist) Bennett Ratcliff.” (1)

DemocracyNow! broke the news that Chiquita was represented by a powerful Washington law firm, Covington & Burling LLP, and its consultant, McLarty Associates (2). President Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder had been a Covington partner and a defender of Chiquita when the company was accused of hiring “assassination squads” in Colombia (Chiquita was found guilty, admitting that it had paid organizations listed by the US government as terrorist groups “for protection” and agreeing in 2004 to a $25 million fine). (3) George W. Bush’s UN Ambassador, John Bolton, a former Covington lawyer, had fiercely opposed Latin American leaders who fought for their peoples’ rights to larger shares of the profits derived from their resources; after leaving the government in 2006, Bolton became involved with the Project for the New American Century, the Council for National Policy, and a number of other programs that promote corporate hegemony in Honduras and elsewhere. McLarty Vice Chairman John Negroponte was U.S. Ambassador to Honduras from 1981-1985, former Deputy Secretary of State, Director of National Intelligence, and U.S. Representative to the United Nations; he played a major role in the U.S.-backed Contra’s secret war against Nicaragua’s Sandinista government and has consistently opposed the policies of the democratically-elected pro-reform Latin American presidents. (4) These three men symbolize the insidious power of the corporatocracy, its bipartisan composition, and the fact that the Obama Administration has been sucked in.

The Los Angeles Times went to the heart of this matter when it concluded:

What happened in Honduras is a classic Latin American coup in another sense: Gen. Romeo Vasquez, who led it, is an alumnus of the United States' School of the Americas (renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation). The school is best known for producing Latin American officers who have committed major human rights abuses, including military coups. (5)
All of this leads us once again to the inevitable conclusion: you and I must change the system. The president – whether Democrat or Republican – needs us to speak out.

Chiquita, Dole and all your representatives need to hear from you. Zelaya must be reinstated.


FOOTNOTES

(1) “Who's in charge of US foreign policy? The coup in Honduras has exposed divisions between Barack Obama and his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton” by Mark Weisbrot

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jul/16/honduras-coup-obama-clinton (July 23, 2009)

(2) http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/21/from_arbenz_to_zelaya_chiquita_in (July 23, 2009)


(3) “Chiquita admits to paying Colombia terrorists: Banana company agrees to $25 million fine for paying AUC for protection” MSNBC March 15, 2007 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17615143/ (July 24, 2009)


(4) Fore more information: http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/07/eric-holder-and-chaquita-covington.html (July 23, 2009)


(5) “The high-powered hidden support for Honduras' coup: The country's rightful president was ousted by a military leadership that takes many of its cues from Washington insiders.” by Mark Weisbrot, Los Angeles Times, July 23, 2009

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-weisbrot23-2009jul23,0,7566740.story (July 23, 2009)


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Boy these guys sure HATE for working families to make a livable working wage. Don't want anyone to be able to sustain themselves it would cut into their profits.

Boycott Chiquita Brands International Inc. (formerly United Fruit) and Dole Food Co


:hi:



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:25 AM
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23. Great stuff Magick Muffin
Damn, the evidence on this one is getting very interesting. Looks like it was full steam ahead for the coup and
then things got turned around for a different public stance, at least. Don't the 'leet realize that siding with
anti-democratic thugh and then lying to rationalize their thug like behavior is not going to work anymore?

:hi:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 07:43 AM
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20. No surprise here n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:06 PM
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22. kick for Lanny
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 03:07 PM by autorank
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:29 AM
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24. A Kick For You
:kick:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:30 AM
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25. Did you see Amy's interview with him?
She should just have put out some dead flies and slime and let him go at it.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/7/honduras
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 05:07 PM
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28. Rokken! Thnx! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:30 AM
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26. Dupe
Edited on Sun Aug-09-09 12:30 AM by EFerrari
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:41 AM
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27. Sort of the opposite of Nixon's "If the president does it, it's not illegal"
The coup had behind it the other branches of the Honduran government, so essentially it was as legal as Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Something can be legal and still be wrong.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 05:11 PM
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29. Right but ...

It wasn't even illegal. The referendum was 'non binding' and the remedy was exile. I've got to look at the
Honduran Constitution but, even if doing a 'non binding' referendum is illegal, is there a punishment listed
that entails removal from office and exile. Simply having the legislature do this doesn't make it legal. That's
how corrosive Davis' bull shit is.

Now, here's a thought or two.
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