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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:09 PM
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The GOP-organized "angst" is a good sign, actually....
They know they're losing. This is their last chance to stop this.


Because once this passes.... and it WILL pass.... then their hold on middle class working stiff will be over. Why?


6 months into Universal Healthcare... when a conservative truck driver loses his job.... but doesn't lose his health coverage for him or his family ... a light-bulb will go on in his head and he'll turn the dial away from Rush Limbaugh.


9 months into Universal Healthcare... when a woman in a dead-end job who previously wouldn't have dreamed of quitting because she didn't want to lose her benefits, leaves her job and starts her own business... because she didn't have to worry about losing her health coverage.... a light-bulb will go on in her head and Sean Hannity will be dead to her.


12 months into Universal Healthcare... When the young 20-something, who previously didn't buy insurance because he couldn't afford it and didn't think he needed it, is diagnosed with cancer and gets the treatment he needs because he was "forced" into being covered... a light-bulb will turn on in his head and he'll stop listening to Glenn Beck.


The GOP elite know that when Health Care Reform passes, it will do to them what the passage of Social Security did to them in the 1930s. Keep them in the political wilderness for two decades.

Because when it passes... they'll get NONE of the credit. None at all. They don't want it.

But when it subsequently succeeds, their "base" is gone.

For generations.



This is their Waterloo, not Obama's.



Health Care Reform will pass. Before Halloween. And the "treat" for Americans will be a "trick" on the GOP that they won't soon recover from.


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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:10 PM
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1. They've been losing their grip on the middle class for a while now.
8 years of Chimpy McNosecandy was enough for that.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:13 PM
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2. Aetna and Cigna have used *our* money to buy all the congresspeople and senators . . .
They need. Single payer/public option is doomed. The eventual bill that emerges will be a horrorshow of ineffectiveness and hidden gravy trains for insurance companies and Big PHRMA. As it crashes, it will drag down Obama and progressive causes for a generation.

Meanwhile, if you get sick, you're toast.

We're fucked. They won.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:19 PM
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7. Nope... you'll see.

Public Option will be in it.

It won't crash.

Pre-existing conditions will be covered, and if you get sick you will NO LONGER be "toast".


They're fucked. We're going to win.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:20 PM
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8. From your mouth to grid's ear . . . n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:21 PM
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Then we take down the insurance companies
They don't own us.
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:13 PM
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3. Good observation (nt)
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:14 PM
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4. Universal healthcare? Really?
Well, we'll see...

But clearly they want to derail the Obama administration now, just as they did with Clinton...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:18 PM
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6. Every scenario I described is actually *IN* the bill.....
...and... if they don't stop Health Care Reform, they won't derail the administration.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:21 PM
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10. there's a single "the" bill to discuss?
Again, you wax more optimistic than I do...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:23 PM
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11. Well.. I'm referring to the House bill..... but coverage-you-don't-lose is in all of them
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:14 PM
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5. Their base is getting smaller and smaller by the day
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 10:39 PM by Jennicut
Many are becoming independents, not Dems but that is good enough for me. Its gripping onto the last remnants of power. They are fearful.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:21 PM
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9. Agreed
How many of the old school - more moderate republicans are being forced out by the antics of the extremists that now sit at the center of the republican party? I would be surprised if most Americans don't feel a little sick to their stomachs when they see these brownshirt tactics.

It looks like the battle for control of the gooper party is over and the extreme neo-conservatives have won that battle - but will they end up loosing the war?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:27 PM
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12. Pretty much. A bunch of defeated Republican jackasses...
...act like the jackasses we know they are and NOW people want to give up and leave the country?

I don't get it.

These people have been angry jackasses for a long time and, IMO, it's the "defeated" part that makes all the difference. They got nothing. And the fact that the insurance industry is having to spend $1+ million EVERY DAY to manufacture this response is fantastic, even if the scenes themselves are stomach-churning.


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