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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:52 AM
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The birther thing = manufactured controversy, pushed/funded by hidden actors.
This manufactured controversy is also hyped in the MSM:

"pro" & "con," with Obama supporters behaving as though the manufactured controversy is a real issue.

Thus it becomes, for all practical purposes, real.

People talk about it, waste energy on it, get irate about it...

though it has nothing to do with the actually existing conditions of their lives.

The molding of what is laughably termed "political discourse" grows so surreal & absurd you have to laugh.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:56 AM
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1. Amen, enough said!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:02 AM
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2. But it gets people defending Obama at the time they may be upset...
over the Heath Care "compromise".
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:19 AM
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4. you noticed.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:26 AM
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5. It was hard to detect with such a nuanced script...
"You must pay the rent."

"I can't pay the rent."

"You must pay the rent."

"I can't pay the rent."

I'll pay the rent.

My hero.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:51 AM
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10. Are you suggesting that the birther/town hall/teabagger shit
is designed/being pushed to divert attention from Obama's failings?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:55 AM
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12. Create politcal cover for pro-corporate Heathcare Reform?
Perish the thought.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:05 AM
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14. no. not like you mean.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:49 AM
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9. yes, yes. it's really a plot by the Obama Whitehouse to divert attention
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:53 AM
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11. All kinds of nutty stories exist at any given time. But which get picked up...
by the Corporate Media, when and why.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:17 AM
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3. You mean to tell me
that the copy of his birth certificate that lists the race of his Mother as "Honkie" is a fake?
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:35 AM
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6. I've been wondering
what might lie behind all this. Clearly this is not meant to get Obama officially removed from office, otherwise this whole argument would have occurred before elections.
I assume it has to do with the presumed Health Care Reform, and diverting the attention away from it. But assuming gets me nowhere.

What also might happen, with all the Birthers airtime, is some right wing nut from a socially and demographic deprived part of the country (note I'm not pointing to 'the South') takes it in his/her head to get rid of the 'Foreign Fake President'. Of course, this is a worst case scenario. I'm just wondering.

Can anyone tell me about the sentiments surrounding JFK during the period he was assassinated? Was that like it is now concerning Obama - lots of un-equal scrutiny, while the opposite side gets away with anything short of murder/genocide? (oh, wait...)

Or are all sides one and the same, really, with 'We the People' on the other side of the coin?

So many questions, so little answers...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:08 AM
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17. the whiff of weimar, i think more likely. "right "& "left" puppets brawling in public.
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 07:10 AM by Hannah Bell
what powerful interests is obama pissing off? none that i can see.

the victim = the public.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:45 AM
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7. You missed out
Those of us who find these fools, who are - without the slightest hint of embarrassment - showing themselves up, highly entertaining. It serves a purpose too, they are turning a lot of sensible people off. Just like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E">The Palin Mob did during the election.



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:48 AM
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8. Yes, it's surreal and absurd. So are many things that influence the political discourse
That's hardly an earth shaking revelation.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:02 AM
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13. How is the birther controversy any more absurd than various Trotskite lunacies?
How are birther insanities any worse than WorldSociopathologicalLiarsWebsite insanities?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:06 AM
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15. cali & hampton, sitting in a tree.....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:15 AM
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18. and for all to see, Hannah's idea of clever. To say you're lame
is being far too kind, my dear.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:19 AM
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19. lol. i'm not your deer.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:25 AM
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20. you're not?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:27 AM
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21. obviously not.
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 07:28 AM by Hannah Bell
(cali & hampton, sitting in....)
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:05 AM
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23. Why don't you trot out some examples?

You can't expect me to take your word for it. Show me, in detail.

Otherwise your just a bush league red-baiter.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:08 AM
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24. If you disagree with me, you support the killing of baby arctic seals!!!
Why do you like to see baby arctic seals clubbed to death and their fur ripped off while they are still alive and breathing!!@1??

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:10 AM
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25. So, option #2

How unsurprising.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:08 AM
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16. The Rushpublicans Have Been Doing This For Decades
I could put up a long list of astroturfed "outrages", "issues" and "scandals" all framed by the rushpublicans and perpetuated by their endless lies and distortions. From the "librul media" to "Obama is a muslim"...the politics of personal destruction have been a major tool in the GOOP arsenal...and it works.

Tell a lie enough times and have enough people say it, people start to first doubt the truth then beleive the lie. Marshall McLuann would be amazed.

Today we have a 24/7 corporate media that doesn't focus on issues but on personalities and stereotypes. They're lazy and go for the sensational over the truth...and the GOOP has long used their duplicity to spread lies and not worry about behing held accountable.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:34 AM
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22. The danger of 'balance'.
All arguments do not have equal standing. Some arguments should be derided and dismissed out of hand.
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