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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:07 AM
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"A lynch mob IS democracy." Neal Boortz
I was listening to r/w radio just now and Boortz said, and I quote: "A lynch mob is democracy."

He said it a few times, with words to the effect of - make no mistake about it - let me be perfectly clear - and so forth.

A few minutes earlier, a caller said that most of his listeners that call in supporting the Teabagger thugs are racist. Boortz went on a tirade about African Americans not being from Africa.

I kid you not.

His argument was: when 40 people want to lynch someone then it's a 40 to 1 democratic vote.

Looking for links.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:09 AM
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1. Wow. Was that a defence of lynch mobs, or an attack on democracy?
Either way, pretty nasty.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:11 AM
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4. Could be both; worst except for all the alternatives, that sort of thing
Proper democracy (and I don't include lynch mobs) has its bad parts to say the least, but the benefits sure do outweigh them.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:08 PM
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22. Whichever keeps the most people from thinking, I suppose.
That's Boortz--ready throw out the Constitution on a moment's notice.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:09 AM
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2. Hey we are making progress
one of the fine upstanding patriotic right wing lunatics on the radio admits to what his people are up to.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:10 AM
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3. I see the "Black is white" meme is still alive and well.
These mobs are 100% pure anti-democracy. AKA Anti-American.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:11 AM
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5. Why yes, Mr. Boortz, which is why we live in a Republic!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:01 PM
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Actually no, he is wrong.
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 12:04 PM by Usrename
Unless you consider the mob to be a sovereign state, in and of itself, and not beholden to any other laws, then mob rule is not a form of government.

It's ridiculous.

on edit>

It's ridiculous dangerous.
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:30 AM
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52. Great point -- this shit is getting to be seriously out of hand. He is a total wackjob.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:12 AM
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6. neal boob's primary goal is to be as "controversial" as possible
perhaps to be as antagonistic as possible is a better way to summarize his approach to talk-radio.

He is a cretin.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:13 AM
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7. Email this to Media Matters
mm-tips@mediamatters.org
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:06 PM
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20. Done,
Also, the Mayor, the station manager, and my Congresswoman.

Thanks for the link.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:26 AM
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8. That is why we don't live in a Democracy and why the US Constitution was written
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 10:52 AM by Winterblues
The Constitution was written to protect Americans from the "tyranny of the majority", and why we have Representative Democracy or Republic instead of just plain ol' Majority Rule.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:32 AM
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9. Which is how Boortz will explain his statement at some point..
I used to listen to Neal a long time ago, he used to be a very funny asshole, now he's just an asshole.

I guarantee Boortz is talking about "pure democracy" when he's saying that about a lynch mob..
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:08 AM
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14. He was talking about mob rule.
He may change his story at some point to stay on the air, but he was definitely talking about the Teabaggers.

Besides, even if he did try that, mob rule is NOT democracy. Not "pure" democracy. Unless you consider the "mob" to be a "sovereign state," which is ludicrous.

Democracy is a form of government, NOT a complete absence of government.

Don't let them get away with this.

I have emailed the local station and the mayor here.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:04 PM
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41. He's been saying stuff like that for decades..
Boortz just likes to aggravate people, I've heard a lot worse from him, that is basically his entire schtick.

Pure democracy is one man one vote, believe me I've heard the entire thing out of him a couple of decades ago.

Keep in mind I'm giving you his point of view, not my own.

Emailing the station and the mayor will get you nowhere, Boortz has been a fixture in Atlanta for three decades or more and has been saying outrageous crap for the entire time.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:36 AM
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16. Your header is misleading...
...while the body of your post is correct.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:58 AM
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17. Sorry, I thought you were responding to the OP.
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 12:11 PM by Usrename
Yes, I agree, the header is wrong. Mob rule has nothing at all to do if we are a democracy or not, which I believe we are.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:01 PM
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18. In what way is it misleading?
I understand that most people accept as fact that the USA is a Democracy, it really is not, in the true sense anyway. We do not live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic and I don't understand how that statement is misleading.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:17 PM
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27. We live in a democracy.
The republic comprises 50 democratic states, all under basically the same democratic rule. National elections are held.

What is the part of our government that isn't democratic.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:25 PM
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32. We live in a Democratic Republic
If we lived in a Democracy, every single issue would be decided by a vote and majority would rule on everything.. Want to lower someone's pay, bring it to a vote.. No it does not work that way. We elect Representatives to make those decisions for us and if we don't like the decisions made we elect new representatives. Just as Venezuela does. It is also considered a Democracy.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:41 PM
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34. I don't know how to parse your response.
"If we lived in a Democracy, every single issue would be decided by a vote and majority would rule on everything.. Want to lower someone's pay, bring it to a vote.. No it does not work that way. We elect Representatives to make those decisions for us and if we don't like the decisions made we elect new representatives. Just as Venezuela does. It is also considered a Democracy."

What do you mean by "also" a democracy.

I'm not trying to win an argument or anything, not trying to give you a hard time either, because I don't see what difference it makes. I think we both see and understand how our system works. I think we can both agree that "mob rule" is not government, and has nothing at all to do with government.

I am also quite convinced that even in a "Democracy" like the one you describe, where everyone votes on every issue, that the majority would not be in favor of legalizing lynching. It's just stoopid. Boortz is an ass. A dangerous ass.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:21 PM
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36. Remember that words have multiple meanings.
In one sense, democracy means vote on everything, and majority rules. In another sense, democracy means that government derives iits power from the will of the people, with safeguards for minorities.

Remember, that most arguments are over the definition of words.

--imm
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 03:08 PM
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40. A republic is a form of democracy.
I've heard idiot right-wingers spew this "not a democracy" crap before.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:10 AM
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45. Exactly. It's like saying "I don't drive a GM, I drive a Chevrolet."**nm
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:00 AM
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61. Do you know what a "republic" is?
Here's a hint: Britain is NOT a Republic. France is. The United States is.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:34 AM
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10. This is democracy?


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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:10 PM
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44. Not any more. What's the actual word for what I'll call a Corporatocracy?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:37 AM
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11. so the 1 is the person that gets lynched?
That's some Democracy he's got there.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:43 AM
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12. fascinating
This is the same asshole I have heard lamenting the democratic process of labor unions as "mob rule". I guess there is no such thing as cognitive dissonance in their world. :crazy:
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:43 AM
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13. Boortz is a racist
always has been. My Aunt used to call him many years ago and tie him up in knots. About 15 years ago he did a skit on "inner city Olympics". It was pure racism. I used to sell dictation equipment and I called on this asshole when he was a lawyer. He was a two bit lawyer. It's pathetic that the only success he has in life is talk radio. failed at everything else and if I ever meet him I will dress him down on what his law office was like.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:22 PM
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29. He deserves a smackdown from people wherever he goes.
How does he get away with this?
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:20 AM
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15. Translation: "We don't need no stinkin' Constitution.
We got a mob, a rope, a victim, and a ton of anger. What the hell do we need a Constitution for?

Poor little Neal. So much mouth, so little...well, anything else.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:04 PM
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19. Umm, no, that's called mob rule
and not exactly healthy for democracy.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:07 PM
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21. Listening to this racist prick is bad for your health. Not a good idea for someone living where
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 12:07 PM by Shagbark Hickory
there is no healthcare.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:28 PM
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33. lol
..and I was just coming home from a peaceful visit to the beach, too.

This is the point where his racist bullshit gets dangerous to everyone's health.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:08 PM
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23. Boortz has crossed the line and is now inciting violence. n/t
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:09 PM
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24. I doubt he had the same opinion during the anti-war protests
And if this is true, then what does this say about Bush's famous pre-screened audienced at his staged town hall "meetings"?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:10 PM
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25. And if they ever show up on my front lawn, practicing Boortz's form of 'democracy'
I retain the the right to use whatever mean necessary, up to and including deadly force in defense of my life, and the lives of my family.

Fuck him and mob rule.


Not in MY country.






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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:10 PM
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26. Why is that slug still spewing on the air?
Gawd, he's repulsive.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:20 AM
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50. Because it's okay for psychotic white guys to have their own media programs?
:shrug:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:33 AM
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53. That pretty much sums it up. nt
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:18 PM
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28. A group of criminals deciding to commit a crime is a criminal conspiracy. NT
NT
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:24 PM
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31. Perfect! Let's arrest them!
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:23 PM
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30. These people have lost sight. They are hell bent on destroying our country.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:46 PM
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35. Freepers always think might is right and violence is the answer.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:23 PM
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37. And, none dare call it "TREASON"?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:24 PM
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38. Mr. Boortz, how do you differentiate democracy from anarchy?
:shrug:

--imm
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:55 PM
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39. And Neal Boortz is a racist, fear mongering idiot.
Anybody report him to the FBI or SS?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:15 PM
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42. I think the Atty General should make a stand.
I think he's gone over the line by about a mile.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:17 PM
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43. Email the clip to the FBI, Secret Service and the FCC. This is incitement to riot.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:14 AM
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46. I heard it too.
Boortz is a tool and a half, but to be fair, he's generally been against the mobs at the townhalls. I think that bit was really intended to be a comedy portion of that 15 minute slot.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:42 AM
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48. Really? He sounded sincere about it. I took it that way,
He had done his AA stunt in the previous segment. It went on for a long time.

I am glad somebody else here heard it though. If it's all a big joke, I ain't laughing.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:19 AM
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47. Let's see if the Malloy scolders are outraged by this puswad.
I got $100 that says that is a big fat NO!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 02:54 AM
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49. Lynch mob? Who was saying anything about a lynch mob? Boortz, your hood is showing. n/t
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:24 AM
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51. Also advocating violence as a legitimate means to their ends: Communists.
Suck on that, Nealzebub.
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Nyquil Man Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:35 AM
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54. So much for due process and all that socialist BS, right?
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 09:37 AM by Nyquil Man
It's not like it's in the Constitution or anything... I mean, it's just in the Bill of Rights, which doesn't count. Right? :sarcasm:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:36 AM
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55. Then we should lynch Neil Boortz. n/t
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:38 AM
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56. Only a Republican would have the gall to take the worst form of tyranny and call it democracy. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 09:39 AM by Umbral
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:27 AM
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57. my FIL is in his eighties, and just yesterday he stated are they trying to
start a race war? It's because of all these hate spewing blowhards on TV--I told him, if there was, it won't be about race--there''d be a whole lot of mixed on one side, against a small, very predominant white wacko group on the other. He's elderly and this talk on TV has him concerned--he loves KO.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:30 AM
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58. mob rule
is NOT democracy
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:35 AM
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59. No, Mr Boorish, you're wrong.
A lynch mob uses violence.

REAL democracy initiates proper, constructive conversation.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 10:56 AM
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60. This is from an OLD Political Science Lesson. "There is nothing more democratic than a lynching Bee.
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 10:58 AM by slampoet
, " said my Mr. Blake political science professor in the first words of the very first session of the first ever college class i took back in 1987, "It leaves an overwhelming satisfied Majority and a Dissatisfied Minority of of one.....

"But luckily, WE Don't Live in a Direct Democracy. We live in a Representative Democracry and that is what you will be learning about in this class."

After saying this he proceeded to identify himself and list all his political biases while telling us that any poly sci professor who didn't tell you their bias or said they were unbiased was worthless.

Prof Blake told us that he could be considered a new deal democrat except that he gave a damn about the environment for his grandchildren's sake. He also revealed that he had throat cancer and after this semester would stop teaching to have throat surgery. This class was my first. This semester was his last one. WE later heard he died of his cancer. Prof Blake never lectured us about Health Care.

I don't know if Neil Boortz was sitting in class next to me that day but Mr Blake would have FLUNKED HIS DUMB ASS.

Boortz took away only the killing part of that lesson. He was too salivated on killing to hear the other part.
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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:08 AM
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62. This is a DESPICABLE scumbag who ridiculed the speech of a nine-year-old child
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:20 AM
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63. This will be their attempt to save face; by declaring mob rule justified...
in response to the tyranny of evil men...they're framing Obama as an evil tyrant
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 11:46 AM
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64. same cretin who says women, students, and those "on welfare" shouldn't be allowed to vote
because they "benefit from the system." I e-mailed the question more than once, what about the corporate honchos who benefit from tax breaks, access to legislators through lobbyists, and so on. Of course, he never answered that one, and he scrubbed it from his Web site.

He also characterizes Katrina victims as lazy con artists.

I hate that ignorant, small-minded, reactionary gasbag with every fiber of my being. He blatantly lies and distorts. Anyone who listens to him with seriousness is a total moron. I used to eavesdrop when running errands in my car in Florida but it raised my blood pressure so much, I had to quit that. Luckily here in Maine I haven't been aware of him.

Anybody know who his sponsors are now?
We need to do a Glen Beck on his sponsors and get that shithead off the air.
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