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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:43 PM Original message |
How to pay for Universal Health Care |
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Rambis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cut 5% off defence (nm) |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Sure. But what I'm saying is that the money is ALREADY there |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. But, but, but.... then you eliminate the middle man's ability to make obscene profits! |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. TMTR in the 70-90% range. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I'm ignorant of that acronym |
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SleeplessInAlabama (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Top Marginal Tax Rate n/t |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Ah. But again, my point is that the money is already there |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. The money has already been diverted. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't disagree with you. I think it should be treated as a separate issue. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I understand that your point is that the money is already being spent. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I absolutely agree with you. Just don't want to ague those points in the same sentence. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Fair enough. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Top Marginal Tax Rate. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. see, here is why it is unacceptable.... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yep - that much is obvious. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. it surprises me to. the MSM certainly could put that out there. we pay for it |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. Plus we are already paying for the government run programs, either |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. It is a no-brainer: End the war, tax cuts for richfux and create a 2% nat'l sales tax. Prob solvedNT |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. National sales tax is regressive and penalizes the poor and working class. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I don't quite agree about that. The more you spend, they more you pay. Fair & square. nt |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Not 'fair and square' really. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Ok that makes sense then there needs to be a minimum salary & salary cap in addition to the sals tax |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Rich people can only spend so much money even on luxuries. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. No sales tax. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is what has been proposed. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes exactly. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. "Most firms pay no income taxes..." (looks like there is money to be had). |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
23. Single payer pays insurance companies to manage... |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
25. There are currently around 40-80 million |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Surely the insurance companies are collecting FAR MORE than the cost of health care. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The insurance company payouts |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Well I suppose that the thing I'm 'missing' |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Start here. |
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