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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:19 PM
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Pelosi Is Not 'Deranged' — Swastikas And Comparisons To Hitler Are On Display At Town Hall Protests
Pelosi Is Not 'Deranged' — Swastikas And Comparisons To Hitler Are On Display At Town Hall Protests

Earlier this week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) came under heavy criticism from the right wing for her dismissal of the town hall tea parties as nothing but "Astroturf." She also noted the disturbing fact that participants have been "carrying swastikas and symbols like that."

The conservative site Wizbang called her claim a "crock." Rush Limbaugh said that Pelosi was "deranged" and accused her of calling conservatives "Nazis." He then, however, went on to note the similarities between Democrats and Nazis:

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Pelosi did not seem to be calling conservative protesters Nazis, but rather calling attention to the disturbing number of Nazi references at these tea party protests. A few examples:



http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/07/pelosi-swastikas/
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:22 PM
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1. Yep. Those Republicans always like to call women crazy. It's the last retort of a failed argument.
Not only are they stupid, they're stupid misogynists.

They said Nancy was crazy when she said that the CIA had misled Congress. Got all poutraged at her over that, too--"How DARE she!!!"

Turns out she was right on that score as well.

When Nancy talks, she's not bullshitting. It's something to keep in mind.

Oh, K and R....
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:27 PM
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3. LOL! Gee, I wonder what happened the last time they scoffed at something Pelosi said? n/t
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:25 PM
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2. They look like anti-Nazi signs
I think Pelosi must have thought they were Nazis or neo-Nazis, which explains her fear.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:29 PM
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4. I don't think she was ever calling the teabaggers nazis, just using the instances of swastikas to
describe their "out there" mentality.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:31 PM
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5. Looks more like Larouche

LaRouche supporter threatened for linking Obama to Hitler

The image of Barack Obama with a Hitler-style mustache displayed by Lyndon LaRouche supporters made another person in Seattle angry.

In the most recent case, Seattle police were called after a young woman exchanged "angry words" with a LaRouche supporter and allegedly said, "Look at me again and I'm going to punch your face," according to a police report.

...

Posted by Casey McNerthney at July 14, 2009 2:47 p.m.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/173712.asp
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:32 PM
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6. A little bit misleading to say they are carrying swastikas
when they are carrying signs with a swastika with an X through it.

Not technically a lie, but definitely misleading.

By that same logic anti-war protesters were displaying swastikas and various other nazi paraphernalia.

I think both sides need to cut it on the outdated and inaccurate nazi-rhetoric. No american politician could ever be said to come close to the evil that was adolph hitler, and no major party is at all like the Nazi party.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:32 PM
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7. dupe
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 04:33 PM by JonQ
friggin wireless internet
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:32 PM
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8. Well, she's at least not deranged about THIS. n/t
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:38 PM
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9. Still seems like a bit of a mischaracterization...
Or should I say "derangement?"

Beyond the fact that two of the three swastikas seen are anti-swastika symbols, she's still dismissing any potential validity of the criticism solely because these people are using an analogy that many of her supports used unabashedly for eight years.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:53 PM
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11. Adios teabagger!
Bonehead
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:57 PM
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12. What is the problem?
There is a difference between a swastika and swastika circled and crossed-out isn't there?

Many of the people Pelosi represents employed the symbols of Nazism as a commentary on us National policy for eights years, did they not?
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:00 PM
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13. Go back to Freeperville pal.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:08 PM
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14. Speaking of mischaracterization...
You have, in the most technical sense, mischaracterized me.

I don't tow any party line, and it's been made very clear to me that I am not welcome at Free Republic.

All it took was the first Coulter thread I replied to and the ban hammer came a knockin'.

Now, do you actually have a criticism of my comment, or are you just grumpy today?
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:16 PM
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15. Some people around here
don't much care for dissension in the ranks.

So insinuating a group of protesters are nazis, because they have swastikas with Xs through them, is perfectly acceptable if it's a democrat referring to a mostly republican group.

If you were to switch it around and have a quote from some republican politician who tried to brand all anti-war protesters as neo-nazis because he likewise saw swastikas with lines through them at a protest made up of mostly democrats, well it would get ugly around here. There would be calls for him to resign, that all republicans are in fact nazis, that he is a filthy liar and a fascist and doesn't believe in free speech and is just setting it up so the feds can send all opposition to gitmo.

What a wonderful difference a single election can make. Dissent goes from being the highest form of patriotism, to virtual treason overnight.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:18 PM
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16. It's probably this:
"Many of the people Pelosi represents employed the symbols of Nazism as a commentary on us"

I'm sorry you're banned from FR because of Ann Coulter. She's vile. She's makes you banned. She's wicked, tricksy, false! Coulter, Coulter ... cough.
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:28 PM
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18. I don't know who you're quoting, but it isn't me.
Don't assume I'm an extreme Conservative just because I'm not an extreme Liberal.

As another pointed out, anything less than total acceptance of the current common perception seems to be met with total and outright rejection.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:35 PM
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20. I was quoting you.
:shrug: And your assumption doesn't really make sense to me - if you're not an extreme Liberal because you're not an extreme Conservative (whatever this means,) I'm fine and welcome you to DU.

And no, 'anything less than total acceptance of the current common perception' isn't met with 'total and outright rejection.' You got this quite wrong here. I'd like to know what you define as 'current common perception,' though.

:hi:
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Fleet Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:06 PM
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21. Didn't notice this, looks like we have a legitimate misunderstanding
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 06:06 PM by Fleet
I failed to capitalize the letters "us" (as in U.S.) in my statement:

"Many of the people Pelosi represents employed the symbols of Nazism as a commentary on us National policy for eights years, did they not?"

The context should make it clear that I was not saying "...as a commentary on us"
as though I had contributed to the policies of the Bush administration.

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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:39 PM
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10. Oh yes, the Swastika serves many purposes.
It's really efficient protesting 'socialism.'

I just wish these awfully deranged simple minds could at least decide if they want to call Obama a Nazi or Socialist. If they call him both, like they do, they shouldn't be surprised to see their pictures being laughed upon - worldwide.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:29 PM
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19. As a result of being branded a Nazi...

Obama should pull out of both Iraq and Afghanistan. That'll learn them.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:19 PM
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17. Um where were these people when Americans were being held w/o trial
it's like they weren't here under bush ,, WTF ?
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