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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:10 PM Original message |
About 2,000 American Citizens were killed in the bombing of Hiroshima |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Lets dig up Truman and try him! |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. was speaking in the past tense |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Japan exterminated 30 milllion civilians durring WWII. |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Please provide reference for Japan exterminated 30 milllion civilians |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Here |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
81. estimates the civilian victims of Japanese war crimes at 5,424,000 |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 03:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. They started a war |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. i guess you never cracked a history book. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. I too would like to see some kind of link to your claims. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Here |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. substantially less then what you claimed |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Not really |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. 1920-1930 world population increased by about 210 million. 1930 to 1940 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. That is your evidence because the world population increased? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. my evidence is that the rate of increase stayed roughly similar decade over |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. My sources are Wikipeida |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. what are you babbling about? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You responded to me |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Rape of Nanking. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. 30 million died in the rape of nanking? gee, who knew? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Responding to this sentence |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. So 70 million people didn't die in WWII? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
47. I stand corrected. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. since the japanese were pretty well confined to the japanese islands before we dropped the bomb, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Japan had 1.2 million imperial troops in China at the end of the war. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
51. "War sucks lets not do it again": uh - iraq, afghanistan, plus pakistan |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes, they were |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. no, they weren't. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I have history and history books to back me up |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. You might as well give up |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I know |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Good Lord, I can't believe this is even being debated here |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you have kin that were killed/injured in World War I? Training to invade Japan? I do on all. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. I do too |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. Didn't the conventional bombing of Tokyo kill more people? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. bullcrap... the Japanese killed tens of millions in Asia and the Pacific |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Several hundred allied POWs were killed at the same time. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
76. Not true. |
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AnOhioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Although it is hard to tell here on DU sometimes |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. What disgusts me the most is the idea that it was right because WE did it. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. If we started a war |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. While the message to Stalin was probably part of it |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm sure our president authorized it for kicks |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. Thank you but I am going to have to stay out of these threads |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Agreed. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. And I am stunned |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Condemning the use of nuclear bombs is not the same as defending Japan's war crimes |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. We did not drop a nuclear bomb on japan |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
73. You don't understand the "straw man" fallacy, do you? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
43. ... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Multiply by 250, and that's how many Americans would've been killed if we DIDN'T do it |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. ...because the Japanese hadn't already given a conditional surrender? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. They wanted to keep more then their Emperor. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Not according to a memo received by FDR at the Yalta conference(Jan 1945) |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Nice website, where did you ever find it? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 04:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Not peer reviewed means non-scientific |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. fyi: know your source. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
78. Yeah I saw that after I posted |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
46. The IHR are a bunch of holocaust deniers... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
50. I got my info from Edwin Hoyt. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. They had given no such thing |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Again, MacArthur delivered the memo. He identified the memo as reported by Trohan as authentic. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Again, |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
80. As I said |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 03:08 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Try wikipedia to start |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. I knew about them and still agree with the bombings. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. 100,000+ PEOPLE died at Hiroshima |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
20. Eisenhower said this slaughter had nothing to do with ending that war. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:24 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Great Study very timely! |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. Key words "It was my belief". He was wrong. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
22. Yes and those American citizens and POW's |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. Certainly none of those prisoners would have been harmed had we invaded Japan conventionally |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
40. People die in wars. More would have died without the bombs, probably. |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yeah, we get it. America = evil, Japan = |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. whereas in your book, it's us good, japan evil. same book. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Nobody wins in war. Demonizing one side over the other is stupid. nt |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. At least we face our demons and deal with them |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Ya start a war of aggression and then whine when it goes against |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
64. I know. Japan was just sitting there minding its own business when the evil capitalist Truman |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. I completely support the bombings. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
69. More unnecessary "collateral damage" in an unnecessary atrocity. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
79. war is hell. |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
84. After starting a war that killed 30 million people and attacking us without a declaration of war. |
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