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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:59 AM
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Love Your Enemies......................
..............unless they're an enemy combatant



Rare Protests at Brigham Young Over a Planned Cheney Appearance

PROVO, Utah, April 10 — The invitation extended to Vice President Dick Cheney to be the commencement speaker at Brigham Young University has set off a rare, continuing protest at the Mormon university, one of the nation’s most conservative.

Some of the faculty and the 28,000 undergraduate and graduate students, who are overwhelmingly Republican, have expressed concern about the Bush administration’s support for the war in Iraq and other policies, but most of the current protest has focused on Mr. Cheney’s integrity, character and behavior. Several students said, for example, that they were appalled at Mr. Cheney’s use of an expletive on the Senate floor in a June 2004 exchange with Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont.

“The problem is this is a morally dubious man,” said Andrew Christensen, a 22-year-old Republican from Salt Lake City. “It’s challenging the morality and integrity of this institution.”

Students and faculty at Brigham Young — a private university sponsored by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — are expected to adhere to an honor code, which emphasizes “being honest, living a chaste and virtuous life, abstaining from alcohol and tobacco, using clean language” and following church doctrines. They are also required to follow strict modesty guidelines for grooming and attire.

In the two weeks since the university announced that Mr. Cheney would be the speaker at the commencement on April 26, hundreds of students have attended respectful and quiet campus demonstrations about his presence, and some 3,600 students and alumni had signed petitions by Tuesday afternoon seeking a “more appropriate” replacement speaker.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/us/11byu.html?ex=1333944000&en=7457df67acda1dbb&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:01 PM
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1. Hats off to these kids...they are living their faith. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:03 PM
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2. Conservatives who actually believe in conservative principles.
Probably scare Rove more than the Dems do.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:18 PM
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8. You got that right
I've met some of those kind, and they are MAD. If they can't take back their party in 2008, many of them will jump ship and join the Constitution Party or even come over to the Dems, like a small group of them did in 2004--they helped found a pro-Kerry group in our county.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:38 PM
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9. Ah the Constitution Party
Can you say "the Green Party for the American Right Wing?"

I knew you could.

To quote a stupid Adam Sandler song: "It's called revenge lunch lady!" said the garlic bread!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:41 PM
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12. Hey, I'll suggest it
to any conservative who is fed up with the GOP and won't go over to the Dems.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:04 PM
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3. I really love this story
Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:04 PM
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4. Good Gracious, EVEN the Mormans are dumping on Cheney...thats a laugh
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:11 PM
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6. Truly amazing isn't it?
I'll wager we can thank the internet for this.

The elders have always gone out of their way to keep that place very insulated from liberal influence.

But the kids have got Crashcart figured out. Good on them.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:55 PM
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14. Reality and Sanity are making a mild COMEBACK.....we should get Miricle Grow to foster the growth
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:34 PM
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15. only thing more astounding to me than Mormons would be Amish people.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:11 PM
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5. Good for the kids at Brigham Young University.
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 12:13 PM by DemBones DemBones
It's about damn time someone in the GOP, as these kids are, called this administration on its unChristian acts and attitudes.

I love the "Love your enemies Unless they're an enemy combatant' sign.

Even better, they're calling him out on his inappropriate comment to Pat Leahy on the Senate floor. I'm not sure the F word has ever been used on the Senate floor before and, IIRC, Leahy was offering to shake Cheney's hand, being a gentleman despite political differences, when Cheny said "Go fuck yourself."

Edit: Not that the Senate incident is the worst Cheney has done, just that it's great that they remember something that happened in 2004 and are not making excuses for him, as so many are for Imus.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:40 PM
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10. I don't believe it had been used before
on the Senate floor, and that is why it made news. "You shall know them by their works" is apparently a practice these students have implemented. They've looked at what these people have done and have realized they are not acting like Christians (or moral people of any worldview).
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:16 PM
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7. Good for them
Let's hope their protests wake up the right wing Christians so that they realize Cheney and Bush are not people to support.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:40 PM
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11. Damned mormon hippies!
:sarcasm:
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:41 PM
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13. This is so cool....K&R...n/t
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