Deadgirl: Nothing says movie classic like rape and necrophilia

Via Lisa at Sociological Images, we're introduced to Deadgirl - a lauded movie making the independent film circuit. Oh yeah, and it's about kidnapping, rape and necrophilia. Good times!

As if the posters weren't enough to give you pause - you really have to love the tagline "You'll never have anything better" and the sideways mouth-as-vagina - the synopsis reveals just how horrifying this movie actually is.

The film begins in a school playground, where two teenagers, Rickie (Shiloh Fernandez) and JT (Noah Segan) are talking. JT gets Rickie to skip school, and the two decide to go to an abandoned mental asylum...where they see a girl chained to a table with a plastic bag over her head. Rickie wants to call the police, but JT tells him not to. They touch her and it is revealed that she is alive. JT punches Rickie and Rickie leaves.

He comes back later with a gun, and JT tells him that he started hitting the girl to stop her screaming. He then shoots her three times, but she doesn't die. Rickie thinks it is messed up.

He returns to the basement to free the girl and hears a banging sound, where he finds Wheeler having sex with her.

...Wheeler tells them that he and Rickie don't need Joann because they have their own pussy now. Johnny and Dwyer go to the basement, where JT asks them if they want a go on the girl. They argue about this for a while before relenting, and have sex with her.

...Later, JT tells Wheeler he knows how to make a new deadgirl, and they go in search of a woman. They find a woman on the car park of a petrol station, and JT hits her with a crowbar, but she manages to beat them both up and escapes. Joann sees them and argues with them about what happened to Johnny, so they kidnap her instead.

They take her to the basement and tie her up...apparently the new deadgirl.

Lisa points out that this movie is actually being touted as controversial and "edgy," when in fact "there is nothing original about rape and sexual objectification." For serious. I mean, the sexualization of dead women is hardly new. I think in honor of this shitshow of a movie, I'll go rent Teeth.

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disgusting misogynistic crap!

And this is just another one of them. :puke:

Say? Wasn't 'Boxing Helena' already made?

Or both? Neither?

Is the writer you, Charles? I see no link.

I look over things at times(I added the link)

I may not like it , but I will fight to death for the right of people to produce such expression. As long as all participants are adults and are not coerced .

would a film about raping children be OK, even if it's all fictional? I wouldn't fight to the death for that, or for this piece of misogynist crap.

I swear, sexism and racism in America is hitting a fever pitch these days!

There have been a number of films about people who rape children. I seem to recall there was hub-bub a while back about Dakota Fanning filming a rape scene in a movie.

I mentioned "Happiness" in a post down the page, and there is a plot in there about a father who molests and rapes his son's friends. The discussion towards the end between the father (played by Dylan Baker) and the son may be the most disturbing thing you will ever watch in a film.

Anyway, it has been done.

The one with Robert DeNiro, Kevin Bacon, and Brad Renfro; about a group of kids who are raped and abused by a guard at a boy's school. Or The Accused, A Time To Kill, Boys Don't Cry; hell, even To Kill A Mockingbird dealt with a rape trial involving a teenager. While we're at it, we can ban the song "Coward of the County," since there's implied rape. I swear, knee-jerk reactionism is hitting a fever pitch these days!

what you post

If it were up to you?

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I say that because there are many horrific movies which have complaints about them which I really thought were well done without being completely gratuitous, such as Gilliam's "Tideland".

But FWIW, that does sound pretty awful. Then again, the best horror movies tend to highlight the horrors that mankind is capable of more than the horrors from any monster.

What the hell do you people find adventurous? Listening to Garrison Keillor read poetry? Watching the Buttercream Gang?

But I doubt I'd bother with this either. And I don't blame a lot of people for finding it on its face to be a turnoff.

.....then again, it can't be anymore painful than watching "Funny Ha Ha". The worst movie I have ever seen.

Instead I should consider it "adventurous?"

It really doesn't sound that adventurous for the female characters in the film but I suppose that attitude makes me a party pooper as well.

And repugnant.

You've changed my whole world view!!!

If you thought the Exorcist is horrendous misogynistic crap because it's about a young girl who violently deflowers herself with a crucifix and should be avoided and the film should tank- then you'd be a prude.

Is the review given here a pretty small part of Dead Girl?

...and I don't mean that in a snarky way. I honestly want to know.

If you're judging the movie based on the subject, rather then the actual film itself, then yeah you're a god damn semi-literate prude and ought to be ashamed of yourself.

This isn't rocket science.

...and you're being WAY more defensive than you need to be. I'm not attacking you. I'm asking you questions about the film that is the subject of this topic.

See the movie and judge for yourself.

I think the defensiveness / ugliness is due to the fact that you just proved someone didn't do his homework before making ill-founded analogies.

Is there some sort of approved checklist from the Legion of Decency?

You should check it out sometime.

He says you're appealing to Ignorance and Censorship.

to say about this, but I can't possibly make any comment without seeing it myself.

Years ago I saw "Salo" after much similar controversy, and at certain points people ran out of the theater. (The "Circle of Pain" segment caused a mass exodus-- the other segments were bad enough.)

To this day I haven't seen anything explore nihilism like that movie did. "A Clockwork Orange" was kid stuff next to "Salo." It was dark, dismal, painful to watch, and found its way into the deepest places in our being-- places we refuse to admit exist, but hope never see the light of day.

This one may not reach that far, but it may still show us things about ourselves we prefer not to see. And if so, it is an important film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116783/

Just tossing that out there.

"Deadgirl" sounds about as pleasant as "Kids" or "Happiness".

Kissed didn't do much for me. Haven't seen Deadgirl. Kids and Gummo are rather bleak. Happiness, however, I consider to be a well made movie. The director's name escapes me now, but all of his movies tackle very controversial subjects within suburban America.

The problem w/the supposed 'shock value' of movies is that everything has already been done a billion times over, and some of the cretins who push it know they're only exploiting as usual, yet try to insist there's some profound social commentary within their exploitative material.

Now, I can enjoy either type of those movies, but prefer people be direct in stating their intentions.

Harmony Korine is a good director.

"Julien Donkey Boy" was art house trash and "Gummo" just sucked.

this weekend.

Geraldine Page.

Terrific film.

One of which was within the last couple of years (sorry, no link b/c I can't recall where it occurred -or any of the names..but it was briefly discussed on DU): Three (?) teenage boys saw a picture of a pretty teenaged girl in the obituary section of the newspaper -they decide they'd like to "hit that".. and decide to dig her up. They were caught during the initial excavation, thankfully.

Excellent movie.

minnesota, i think??

is gratuitously titilating... well that tells us something about the movie, in regard to whether it's supposed to tell a thought-provoking story or... serve some other kind of purpose.

I sure won't be seeing it.

I want to keep my cool side cool and my hot side hot.

Was it written by a 4th grader?

It seems to be pissing off enough people who have seen it so it might be worth a look.

Seriously, I realize I'm probably among the more prudish here, but come on, what the hell is this? It's cool to rape, murder and then defile the corpse? There are days I wonder if our society truly deserves to die, hearing of crap like this only strengthens that sentiment.

and that the bottomless depths of human depravity and evil frequently make more compelling art than the other side of the spectrum...but stuff like this honestly disturbs me and i even though i love indies i tend to avoid this type because it dwells in my mind for months, years after seeing it and overshadows the more sane thoughts in my head...

I've only seen one or two of the other movies mentioned upthread, but i do have some great ideas if i ever want to put together a "Totally Tasteless Indies" film festival...

To say this stuff is sick is an understatement. This movie seems to be designed to create serial killers. We need to do something. This isn't art; it's virtual snuff.

I am not afraid of ghosts, goblins and vampires

But the two sociopath protagonists of the story...now they scare me