Is Senator McCaskill telling the truth about single payer?

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Monday, Aug 10, 2009 @07:01pm CST

Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill made a visit to rural southeast Missouri today for a series of town hall meetings regarding President Obama's proposed health care overhaul.

"We are not going to socialize medicine. I am not for single payer plan and that's just not going to happen. It's not even on the table. It's not even on the table. Not one plan that's been written has anything with a single payer system in it. Not one! So this is the fear people have that is based on nothing in fact. Not one plan is a single payer system," says McCaskill.

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combined to get it and the Senate HELP plan. The Senate Finance plan is not written, but it was the least likely to have anything on single payer.

There was an amendment in the House one that allows STATES to create single payer plans, but that is NOT the national plan. There also is a bill introduced by Sanders, with no co-sponsors in the Senate and 767 in the House - but neither have anywhere near the votes to pass.

floor of the House. It seems one thing to oppose single payer, unwise as that may be, but it seems another altogether to try to make people think there isn't a single payer bill to vote on when there is. If the public option/coop/whatever it is this week plan is a good one, one would think there would be no need to pretend a competing single payer bill doesn't exist.

Everyone is speaking of the bill that has been accepted by all 5 of the committees that have jurisdiction. That bill will be brought to the floor of the House. The bill you refer to is a bill that will be brought to the floor as an amendment of the bill that passed the 5 committees, in the nature of a substitute. If it passed, which it won't, it would then be the health care bill voted on.

In the Senate, where McCaskill is, there is no single payer bill. Sanders introduced legislation, but he has no co-sponsors - so it is highly unlikely to go to the floor of the Senate.

Pelosi has said that Weiner's amendment to replace hr 3200 with hr 676 (medicare for all) will be allowed on the floor for debate and a vote. Our job is to get the blue dogs who say it is not feasible, and the dems who say it is not feasible —because of the blue dogs— to stop the circle jerk and realize they have the majority and it is feasible if they get behind Weiner's amendment and make it happen. That is how it becomes feasible.

No one ever thought that would make it to any final bill. Ever.

Nonetheless the fact remains that it was never been part of the plan.

McCaskill is being misleading, at best, when she says there are no single payer bills since, in reality, there is one.

That single payer is just around the corner and that's what's going to come out of conference. You are referring to a proposed amendment, not a bill. Dream on.

system? If so, wouldn't that suggest Senator McCaskill is not telling the truth when she says there is no bill calling for a single-payer system?

http://www.hr676.org/

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At the very same time, few Americans are aware that there is a bill in Congress RIGHT NOW that will change all that and actually create a single-payer national health insurance system for all in the United States simply by expanding and improving Medicare, one of the best and most efficient medical managements systems in the world. This new improved and expanded Medicare will cover everybody and everything including prescription drugs, dental care, nursing home care and much, much more at prices that we can all afford. There will be no more expensive co-pays or deductibles. Exclusions for pre-existing conditions will be a thing of the past. No American will ever again be forced into bankruptcy because of health care debt. The bill is called House Resolution (H.R.) 676. It's what we've all been waiting for and if we all join hands and get behind it, IT WILL PASS!

It has never gotten out of committee. It's not on the table. Come on back to reality.

Is that an accurate statement?

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Who knows what anymore.

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Only in fantasyland has there ever been any talk of single payer. When I see posts like "The Blue Dogs killed single payer" that's just delusional. Sadly, single payer has never been considered as one of the viable alternatives in this process. At best there as been a push for public insurance that can "compete" with private insurance and if it were to drive private insurance out of the market it might end up as a de facto single payer system. Not bloody likely, since the public option they end up with won't be structured to actually compete. If you really thought they were debating single payer you either haven't paid attention or have just heard what you wanted to hear.

she is not the representative of DU

She doesn't seem to support them.

Single payer is the ONLY rational solution to reducing costs and upgrading care. I would be willing to settle for a public option that can lead to single payer.