I Will Not Discuss My End-Of-Life Options With Anyone - pic

this whole thing is going beyond stupid...


Protestors march near Portsmouth High School in Portsmouth, N.H. , Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2009, where president Barack Obama will speak about his health care plan.

They're trying to but the nutjob minority pictured here keeps trying to muddy the waters of our discourse and do nothing but prevent our democratically elected representatives from listening to us.

What a dope!

and the person looks old enough to be on medicare. If they aren't currently on medicare, they will be soon.

and the person looks old enough to be on medicare. If they aren't currently on medicare, they will be soon.

Assuming she has any.

and take em to these rallies. You know the one that says I hereby agree to give up my medicare, medicaid, va benifits, and/or etc. etc.

please sign here:evilgrin:

Fuckin stoopid people.

I wish I could rec this post!

I'm just reiterating a good idea.

(suggested by Proud2bLibKansan)

It has all of their overthetop uberpatriotic verbiage and graphics.

:thumbsup:

Oh, please, what a frickin' tool.

She thinks it's euthanasia related and probably has no idea what an advance directive is.

because they belong to a fear based religion don't want any mention at all of the fact that their lives are going to end. Writing a will leaves them depressed for weeks. It gives them no peace of mind to have their affairs settled.

They don't realize that a living will can also specify that they get everything medicine can provide as well as refusing it all. They just can't bring themselves to consider the possibility.

They just don't want to confront their mortality. Death to them means a mean old man on a cloud will judge them harshly and send them to hell.

The sillier one is the broad on the left with the anti government healthcare sign. If she's not on Medicare now, she will be very soon, by the looks of her. Now that's a fool.

And it was my biggest disappointment of the Town Hall.

Obama explained there were to be no death panels, and how that lie had been manufactured - from end of life discussions, but he didn't explain what a living will/advanced directive is. He used words they didn't understand and the bells didn't go off for these people. He needed to explain it to them in the terms a child would understand. They had no idea what he was talking about.

she was terrified of doing a living will. In fact she wouldn't. My father on the other hand did one for himself when he got ill. As was mentioned below, she was also terrified of death. The truth is both died and it wasn't much different one way or the other. Some people just can't handle death.

I thought the Terri Schiavo situation was something everyone learned from?

IF nobody knows what you want, no way to carry out your wishes.

Gawd these people are so beyond stupid.

By the medical expenses of keeping her alive beyond her insurance benefits, if she has any.

Stupid and don't care about anybody but themselves.

:spray:

Said the taxaphobe freeps walking on a publicly funded street.

My 77 year old mother had a living will back in 1994.

she had one.

Some people don't get it, they never will.

:shrug:

Point being, this becomes a fight between the hospital and the insurance company.

The family's input? Irrelevant.

How can so many people be so completely clueless?

when the fringe of this nation is taken seriously, we are in big trouble.

But I guess that's better than having the government make the decision.

Oh, wait a minute.

How can some people live so long and be so stupid????

she's actually bragging that she'd put her family through hell trying to decide what she'd want.

I'll bet right now, she has high blood pressure and diabetes. Yet she'll talk to no one about her end of life options. If she doesn't drop dead of a heart attack or massive stroke, I wonder how much she'll like losing the function of her internal organs one by one?

Gee, aren't these the same folks who would force women who want abortions to jump through hoops, discuss the procedure, look at photos of fetuses, etc.? I guess it matters whose body it is.

good point.

she expects the US Congress to hold a special session for her.

What's the point of them waving these colors so much in our faces? :shrug:

Interesting.

No one and no bill is asking you to. The Republican who introduced the measure, was simply saying that if you choose to, there will be a reimbursement to the doctor/counsellor as part of the Medicare benefits package.

Is she on social security disability? Medicare? Medicaid? She might have to eat those words, or use them as cheap bandages... damn fool.

... had a thorough discussion of my mother's end-of-life preferences six-and-a-half years ago. That 'Living Will' was an essential security blanket, without which the experience would have been even more hellish.

That woman is a total, utter ass.

I am so sorry about your mom. :hug:

My mom was sick for several years before she died. She did not have a living will. Nothing. Didn't discuss with us her wishes. It was a very difficult time for us.

are in callous disregard for their family's well being in that future moment of crisis. And of course, if a person does wish to have all life sustaining measures taken at the end, the only way to ensure that will be the case is by having Advance Directives. Those who desire all measures to extend life are the very ones that need these directives more than anyone.
We recently updated my Mother's, and I did in fact review them with a professional, to make sure I checked the boxes as Mom wanted them when she did them the first time. Many people would like advice on the terminology and all.
These people are idiots. Idiots who do not care for their families, I might add.

When your time comes, and no arrangements and no decisions have been made. As an ICU nurse, who has seen this scenario way more times than I can count:

Good luck with that.

so the system takes every fricking penny out of you while you lay there in a vegetative state. What an idiot!

No worries, it's a rhetorical question. Every time I think I've seen rock-bottom stupid, someone comes along and proves to me that we're not there yet.

Thing is, no one is telling her that she *has to*, or even that she *should* have an end-of-life conversation with anyone. All it says is that, should you want or need to have that conversation with a physician, it will be reimbursed. And it limits how often the plan will pay for those conversations. That's it!

Good grief, these people are annoying.

What I want to do is get up in her face and say fine, don't have that conversation. Then, when you're in a wreck and the hospital is keeping you alive with breathing apparatus and feeding tubes and what-have-you, your loved ones will be left to figure it out on their own -- use extraordinary life-saving means? pull the plug? never pull the plug, just keep draining the family accounts until they've run dry? give it a year? what??? you will have given them no guidance whatsoever, therefore ensuring that your actual wishes (should you have thought it out that far) will not / cannot be followed. How considerate of you.

'I will not discuss my end of life options with ANYONE.'

'Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare'

Makes for a nice file of stoopid. It's almost funny, if it weren't so sad - these people and the silly things they say.

LOL

Gave me a good laugh. Thanks.

:kick:

Sure, we won't discuss end-of-life options but can we at least address end-of-calf?

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