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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:48 PM
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Rudolph Giuliani Thinks Milk is "$1.50 a gallon" and Bread "about $1.25, $1.30 a loaf"
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 02:49 PM by Dems Will Win


$1.50 a gallon ?!?!

That is so last decade!

Guiliani clueless about cost of food

It's just what the country needs: another out of touch Republican who probably hasn't had to do any mundane tasks like go grocery shopping for a very long time. It seems Rudy Giuliani has no clue about how much food costs. From Newsday:

But when asked about more mundane matters - like the price of some basic staples - Giuliani had trouble.

"A gallon of milk is probably about a $1.50, a loaf of bread about a $1.25, $1.30," he said.

A check of the Web site for D'Agostino supermarket on Manhattan's Upper East Side showed a gallon of milk priced at $4.19 and a loaf of white bread at $2.99 to $3.39. In Montgomery, Ala., a gallon of milk goes for about $3.39 and bread is about $2.


I bet there are millions of American moms and dads who can tell you exactly what they paid for milk and bread. With fuel prices rising, family budgets could be stretched.

http://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/2007/04/guiliani-clueless-about-cost-of-food.html


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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:49 PM
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1. Great Post
Rudy is just another GOP bubble boy.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:50 PM
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2. So what
I don't know either and I do most of the grocery shopping. I put it in the cart because we always use it. I have to get eggs and toilet paper on the way home today, I couldn't tell you how much those will cost either.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:52 PM
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5. You may be too young to know that this is a grievous mistake in politics
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 02:53 PM by Dems Will Win
and has tripped up Republicans before. It is a very big deal in the news already:

Giuliani gets cost of milk, bread wrong
USA Today - 2 hours ago
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately — at least based on his answers about ...

Giuliani off on price of milk, bread
MSNBC - 4 hours ago
Rob Carr / AP. AP Writer. MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately - at least based ...

Giuliani Off on Price of Milk, Bread
ABC News - 17 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS. MONTGOMERY, Ala. Apr 10, 2007 (AP)— Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately at least ...

Giuliani Off on Price of Milk, Bread
San Francisco Chronicle, CA - 17 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS, AP Writer. Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately — at least based on his answers ...

Giuliani Off On Price Of Milk, Bread
Guardian Unlimited, UK - 17 hours ago
From AP. AP Photo ALRC108. By PHILLIP RAWLS. AP Writer. MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery ...

Giuliani Off The Mark On Grocery Costs
Guardian Unlimited, UK - 20 hours ago
AP NewsBreak: Catholic Abuse Claims Drop. From AP. AP Photo ALRC106, ALRC105. By PHILLIP RAWLS. AP Writer. MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Republican presidential ...

Candidate Off the Mark on Grocery Costs
Houston Chronicle, TX - 21 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS AP Writer. © 2007 AP. MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately _ at ...

Giuliani off on price of milk, bread
Macon Telegraph, GA - 5 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS - AP Writer. Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani smiles before walking to a news conference, Tuesday, April 10, 2007, ...

Giuliani Off the Mark on Cost of Groceries at Southern Campaign Stop
MyFox Washington DC, DC - 6 hours ago
Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately — at least based on his answers about the cost of milk and ...

Giuliani Off on Price of Milk, Bread
Wyoming News, WY - 11 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS Wednesday, April 11, 2007. MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately ...

Giuliani off on price of milk, bread
Prescott Herald, AZ - 15 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS, AP Writer 14 minutes ago. MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn‘t done a lot of grocery shopping lately ...

The Price Is Wrong for Giuliani
Christian Broadcasting Network, VA - 16 hours ago
By Phillip Rawls. AP Writer. CBNNews.com -- MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping ...

Republican candidate off the mark on cost of milk, bread
AL.com, AL - 17 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS. AP. MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani hasn't done a lot of grocery shopping lately — at least based ...

Giuliani off the mark on grocery costs
Sacramento Bee, CA - 21 hours ago
By PHILLIP RAWLS -- AP Writer. Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani, left, and Alabama Gov. Bob Riley, right, react before Giuliani spoke to a ...

Giuliani's price-test: Milk and bread?
Chicago Tribune, IL - 7 hours ago
MONTGOMERY, Ala. – It looks like it’s been a while since Rudolph Giuliani picked up a few things at the store on his way home from work. ...

Rudy Pulls a George Bush Sr. Moment on Price of Bread, Milk
Mother Jones, CA - 37 minutes ago
It's no wonder that a guy who makes millions on shady law firm consultations and high-flying speaking engagements is a little out of touch with the common ...

Rudy Makes Grocery Gaffe While On The Campaign Trail In Alabama
NY1, NY - 4 hours ago
Republican front-runner Rudolph Giuliani has visited dozens of cities in the past month, but he apparently hasn't been to the grocery store. ...

Who does his shopping?
Politics on the Hudson, NY - 5 hours ago
Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani got hit with a campaign trail tradition—the price-of-milk-test—yesterday while hunting for votes in Alabama. ...

Rudy’s Southern Blunder
New York Press, NY - 5 hours ago
Clearly, Rudy Giuliani must not do his own grocery shopping. But you’d think for the purposes of at least seeming like a man of the people, he’d research ...

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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:59 PM
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16. Hardly
I'm 50. I didn't really care about Bush senior not knowing prices either.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:11 PM
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19. I'm betting MOST people care.
Good for you that you don't have to be concerned...
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:27 PM
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44. Yup. Cuz knowing real facts of life is so overrated...when you can create your own
reality....
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:42 PM
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64. It's tied into the minimimum wage and the cost of living-and it matters greatly to many voters
you're the exception who probably doesn't care about the phenomenon of the working poor. We have more than ever in NYC, Rudy ought to know the math.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:28 PM
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23. The "so what?" is that NOT KNOWING this info is a sign that a politician isn't
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:29 PM by WinkyDink
concerned AT ALL about the daily struggles of TOO MANY PEOPLE, and, indeed, has a totally SKEWED opinion of how far their minimum wage goes.

THAT'S what's what. NOT your own personal attitude about your own personal budget.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:40 PM
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53. Must be nice.
Most people I know care about prices because they want to go where stuff is cheapest. Maybe you can afford not to worry about nickels and dimes but a lot of us do.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:54 PM
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58. I paid $3.99 for a gallon of milk and $2.99 for bread
Those are usually items families with children consume in great amounts.

Prices like this especially hurt lower-income families.

It would be nice if a person who wants to be President knows how much shit costs nowadays and how hard it is for less fortunate to put food on the table. It would show that he is concerned not just about his rich buddies, like his friend Dumbya.


I guess you are fortunate that you don't have to worry about prices for groceries.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:56 PM
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59. "So what?"
Holy crap. Must be great not to be concerned with the price of groceries. I know I've been watching my grocery bill like a hawk and am alarmed at the price increases.

Geez.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
82. It's the "let them eat cake" mentality --
and anyone who honestly worries about money and putting food on the table would know the cost of said food (not slamming you, but it's true).
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:51 PM
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3. Sounds like Bush Sr. "checkout scanner" flub nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:56 PM
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I was going to say that but when I checked it out online, it was labeled FALSE on Snopes
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:31 PM
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24. snopes is not always correct
they are a couple of great researchers, but they are fallible.

i remember that one, and there were no serious real-time disputes to the claim.

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:33 PM
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25. I remember it too, but now that I read the Snopes cite, I realize it may have been
somewhat of an exaggeration.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. Yes... I remember clearly when this happened...
It was both widely reported and not disputed to my knowledge. That makes me wonder if snopes may be in error on tis one...
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:18 PM
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41. Like most "legends" it had much truth
I very much recall the scanner incident. It did happen...but...Bush was being shown an advanced model that could read partially torn upc labels. He was amazed at the technology (probably rightly so) but it got picked up that Bush was amazed at checkout scanners, a pretty mundane tech even then.
It is the same dynamic that keeps the "Gore invented the Internet" chestnut going...he did indeed assert (correctly) much credit for legislation that helped bring the Internet about...it isn't the same as saying he invented it, but it is enough of a truth to wrap a meme around it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:27 PM
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43. makes sense....
The contrast with George HW and George W makes it possible to believe the scanner incident to be "overplayed," while, I'd have trouble doubting most anything idiotic from George the lesser.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:56 AM
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72. Snopes is WRONG!
I distinctly remember that episode, and it's one of the things that lost the election for Bush. Nobody wanted a president who was that out of touch with how real people live.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:51 PM
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4. I buy the half-gallons, I think they are $1.89
And you can buy the cheapie Target bread for about a buck a loaf. But the name-brand stuff will cost you 2-3 bucks a loaf, easy.

Not defending Guliani at all. He has plenty of money; I doubt he buys Target-brand bread.

Sam Brownback for the GOP nomination!
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mooseprime Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:53 PM
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6. another republican
with his finger on the pulse of the citizenry!
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:53 PM
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7. When asked about pop culture, Rudy said
he didn't really "get" that new be-bop music, but his kids liked it.

He also mentioned how big a fan he was of "that crazy guy who plays the space man every now and then on Happy Days."

He ended the interview by asking where he might procure a bromo seltzer and some hardtack.

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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:53 PM
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8. I'll bet a lot of politicans don't know the cost of those items
But I'm glad to see Rudy screw it up so royally.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:10 PM
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18. To the extent that is true, it is UNACCEPTABLE
Time for a reality check!
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:13 PM
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20. I didn't say it was acceptable
And you're right, most politicians do need a reality check.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #8
84. We should make up a quiz that all of them are pressured to take.
Seriously.
Questions as to the price of basic foodstuffs; and maybe some other ones that are pertinent...insurance would be good; health providing ones also. Taylored to the individual state.
Things that affect your middle to lower class consitutuant. No longer than two pages.
What think you?
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:54 PM
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9. In mid- Michigan, Kroger often has milk for $1.00 a half-gallon.
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 02:54 PM by Notorious Bohemian
That's $2.00 a gallon. Other times, the gallons are on sale at 2/$3.00. I buy bread at the day old outlet, where the premium bread(retails at $2.79 a loaf) cost .79 cents a loaf.
Dud doesn't know where to shop.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:46 PM
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66. It's generally 3:50-3.95 for milk at Kroger here.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:54 PM
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10. That is so last century!!!
Clueless creep.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:56 PM
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11. Some of us shop with a calculator.
I can spend $50 a week on food, papergoods, cleaning items, toiletries etc. No more. I have to know about what something is going to cost before I make out the list - I start with the highest priority items and work my way down.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:56 PM
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12. Rudy should have seen this coming.
They do the price of groceries test every election.
Fault him for being unprepared, not out of touch.
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:56 PM
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13. I'll bet he thinks gas is about $1.50 a gallon too
And, again, how wrong he'd be.

I pay $1.89 for a half gallon of milk, $2.49 for grocery store bread. In SE Michigan.
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RC Quake Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:57 PM
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14. In all fairness, he right about the bread.
If you care to make your own or buy the frozen dough and bake it yourself. It puts that other $4.00 a loaf crap to shame.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:58 PM
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15. I get milk for $1.99 a gallon and bread for 75 cents a loaf
That's skim milk and white bread. I very much doubt if Hillary or Edwards or Obama do their own shopping either.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:36 PM
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27. Is Giuliani your candidate? nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:43 PM
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31. I guess he should be
"In his explicit support for civil unions and nondiscrimination, and in his refusal to backtrack on these topics in addressing conservative forums, Giuliani has demonstrated himself to be more progressive, outspoken, and stalwart on our behalf than all but a very few Republicans or Democrats in the State of Indiana."

http://www.bilerico.com/2007/03/002447.php

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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #15
29. never mind nt
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 03:37 PM by DireStrike
edited out
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #15
30. The 75c is likely for day-old Wonderbread, which I have NEVER
allowed into my home, even when fresh.

I can do bread for even cheaper, but then I like to make my own. Decent bread of a quality comparable to mine is $4 at the store.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. no, it's price chopper bread, baked in KC
AFAIK no older than any other bread in a grocery store
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #33
42. Chiefs and Chopper, Chiefs and Chopper, Chiefs and Chopper...
Do they still play that massively annoying commercial? It's been 10 years since I lived in KC.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. I have heard the slogan, but not noticed it to be annoying
There are so many commercials that make me reach for the mute button.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:35 PM
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51. Kansas City? Dorothy, you're not in Kansas anymore...Ask a New Yorker about Rudy...
About his breaking our budget, insulting police victims, creating a climate of racial tension and refusing to vacate his job when the term ended...And in the last day on the job, he burdened the City he bankrupted with building two stadiums - signing contracts for which he got a kick back...Oh, did I mention his crusade against art museums, street vendors, 9.11 mourners at Union Square? Tell me how progressive Rudy is, and I'll tell ya why where people know him, they call him Il Duce.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #51
57. Substantive issues?
Why? When we can attack him on bread and milk issues.

BTW, post #31 was meant to be an equivalent below the belt punch. How'm I doin'?
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:47 PM
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67. "How am I doin'" is another a*hole's catch phrase. (Ed Koch) If you count on Rudy
to respect anyone else's rights - you're dreamin' Dorothy. Rudy is a more dangerous lunatic than Bush - I only hope BFEE will not pick him as his ego is so huge that he's hard to manipulate.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
48. Guliani lives in NYC- prices are much higher there
I would bet Edwards, Clinton and Obama would at least come closer to the actual price of these items than Rudy did.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #48
86. Bread is @ 2-2.20 here and milk is 3.99. This is NC.
Third biggest city on the outskirts.
Gas is about $2.79.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
65. day old bread?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:09 PM
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17. Shoot, the average "real" person could tell you
the price of multiple brands, organic versus non-organic, and which store might save you enough to make driving--with the sky high gas prices--cost effective.


These assholes are so into their own little privileged world... :eyes:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:19 PM
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21. No wonder Republicans think the minimum wage is fine where it is. nt
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:23 PM
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22. Well, let's see...
I can get the store brand bread for roughly $1-1.25. The name brand stuff is $2-3.

Not sure about milk. I buy the Lactaid stuff that's about $3.50 a half gallon (I'm lactose intolerant, and don't use a whole lot of milk anyways). I'm sure milk is over $3 a gallon here in the midwest, though.

Either way, I think it's been awhile since Rudy went grocery shopping on his own.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. I've gone to Target and gotten their brand of bread for about a dollar
or just under. I was at the Dollar Tree a week ago and saw that they were selling bread there as well (brand name).
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:36 PM
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28. wonder if he's ever seen those new-fangled price scanners they have at stores these days?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:47 PM
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32. Maybe he shops out of the day old bread?
I do as it is all half the reg. cost and I just put it all on ice, any how, so it will last. I shop every two weeks. Milk is not on my diet but I almost fell over at orange juice this week. That really went up.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 03:49 PM
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34. I'd be willing to bet he knows the market price for a share of Halliburton stock.
Our "elected leaders" live on another planet. Believe it.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:01 PM
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36. nobody I know in New York buys Milk by the gallon
(because it spoils before you drink it all) and just for the record the Polish-run grocery store I go to doesn't itemize what you buy on the receipt, it's just prices listed with no reference.

So I have no idea how much I pay for stuff. In NYC I buy at the closest store, and don't really care about price. I'm not walking more than 2 blocks with my arms full of groceries. High priced groceries are still cheaper than ordering Thai delivery 5 nights a week.

Not really trying to defend Rudy, just saying that life in NYC is a little different than in other parts of the country.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #36
46. You're right, but so what.. IMO anyone who wants to be President
should know what the ~average~ US citizen pays for staple items, including insurance and energy. If they don't now, they never will after moving into the WH.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:22 AM
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78. true dat
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:43 PM
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56. No ones buys gallons of Milk in NYC?
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 04:45 PM by murloc
Really?

I think I understand, well sort of your point about it spoiling before you drink it all.

But I guess I don't understand why they wouldnt be a problem for the rest of the America as well. Is the milk older by the time it reaches the city or something?

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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:55 AM
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73. I buy milk *two* gallons at a time..
Because a single gallon runs out before we go to the store.

I eat a lot of cereal but we don't drink all that much milk.

Kroger brand milk is about $3.85/gallon.

Kroger brand 100% whole wheat bread is $1.50/loaf and tastes just as good as the name brands.

The only Kroger brand item I've found I don't like is their vegetable juice, V8 is much superior.
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:11 AM
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76. Yea that sounds like my family
I guess I just don't understand the assertion above(if true) and why New yorkers would drink less milk. Seems like a odd distinction thats all.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:27 AM
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79. yes the milk is older by the time it gets here
there are two dates on all milk, one is everyone else, the other is for NYC.

All I know is when I lived in Ohio I would buy milk by the gallon. Now that I live in New York, I don't. This holds true for everyone I know in the actual city, but then again I don't know many families of four who live around here. Everyone leaves for the suburbs...
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:39 AM
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83. Perhaps NYC dwellers tend to spend less time home...
but my friends who live there seem to be home the same amount they were living in Massachusetts so...

I can understand the whole not wanting to carry it though.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:06 PM
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37. He also thinks it worth $100 million-plus to make himself President.
That is where he is way off the mark, as are his rich donors.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:08 PM
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38. I'll bet Rudy knows down to the penny what he has in the bank of
Halliburton.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:13 PM
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39. sure-fire question at all-candidate meetings: how much to ride the bus?
Usually the progressives know and the corporate types have no idea.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:16 PM
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40. I remember milk was $1.50 a gallon at Wegman's just 3 years ago
now it's probably $2.00, maybe more. But Wegman's has vertically integrated farms and dairies so their costs are ridiculously low. A dozen eggs were $1.00 3 years ago. This was in Rochester, NY. I don't live there now so I don't know if it's still that cheap. But it's definitely cheaper than the national average.
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:28 PM
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45. C'mon, cut Rudi a break
What he meant to say was gas was $1.50 a gallon........sheesh.

:evilgrin:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:32 PM
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49. $3.39 for a gallon of milk in Alabama?
What kind of gold-laced milk is that?

We pay about $2.99 for a gallon in Tennessee. And bread *is* about $1.30.

I'm not excusing Ghouliani here, but these figures are outrageous. Either that or produce is just cheaper in Tennessee for some inexplicable reason.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:02 PM
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60. Hell, mine's $3.59 a HALF gallon
But I drink Lactaid. They're killing us lactose-intolerant folk.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:51 PM
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68. Stuff IS a lot more expensive in Manhattan.
I live upstate and buy the fancy non-RBST milk and I pay $2.09 a half gallon, and I get the whole-wheat bread that runs around $2.89 a loaf. But you can also go to the Aldi and get cheapo white bread and milk for half that.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:34 AM
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77. Here in Biloxi milk is somewhere between $3.50 and $4
A decent loaf of bread is about $1.99

Count yourself lucky.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:59 PM
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87. $3.99 gal here in NC, not that far from you.
I dunno either.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:32 PM
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50. To be fair
I pay 1.97 for a gallon of milk, and I can get all of the store brand white bread a want for about $1.00 a loaf. I seriously doubt if ANY of the candidates on either side shop for their own food.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:39 PM
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52. YIKES!!! His money/influence has moved him way WAY out of touch with,...
,...common American people. Has he socialized with us 'commoners' at ALL?

Dear Rudy,

You can NOT possibly represent the best interests of someone like me. Hell, you have proven NO ability to even identify with the likes of me. So, go home.

Sincerely,

sicksicksick AND tired
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:41 PM
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54. Well, that's the right order of magnitude.
Better than some answers I've heard.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:42 PM
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55. Yeah, right Rudy , , , and health insurance is $5.00 a week. nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:06 PM
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61. I have no idea what a gallon of milk, loaf of bread, box of crackers and many other items cost

I don't drink milk, usually just put a couple of loaves of bread in the cart. These things are quite silly. I guess all the other candidates will get briefed on the costs of bread, milk, kool-aid, and such now? Good way to spend their time.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:16 PM
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62. Well you can get a loaf of bread for under $1.50 here if you get the cheap stuff...
If you want a decent loaf of bread however you are going to pay at least $2.50. Milk however costs over double what Giuliani claims even for the generic crap that comes from cows which have been pumped up with anti-biotics and growth hormones. I pay over $6.00 a gallon for organic milk so I can avoid the Monsanto fed mutant cow milk.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:16 PM
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63. He may not know about the average grocery bill,
but he's right on the money when it comes to managing a wig and heels. Truly fabulous!
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:14 PM
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69. My liberal husband
whose influence turned me from Republicanism (in college - 20 years ago) went grocery shopping after work today. One of the items he picked up was a gallon of milk. When I opened this thread, I asked him if he knew what a gallon of milk cost. Guess what? He couldn't.

I usually do the shopping and I pay more attention to prices than he does - I suppose he would do so if he was the main shopper. I doubt that Rudy does much grocery shopping so I'll cut him some slack on this.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:01 AM
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70. No presidency for your hubbie!
It's as simple as that. :-)

(However, a Dean scream works faster.)
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:42 AM
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71. K&R baby. This is kind of scary.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:45 AM
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74. I have no idea how much I spend on milk and bread
it isn't like I can just not get it if it's expensive. So I just buy it. Yes, I'm comfortable financially speaking but I'm not rich.

I'm a mom and I don't know. My daughter doesn't drink milk or I'd probably have a better idea because I'd be driven crazy by spending so much on milk all the time. Also, I buy organic milk and I think it costs a bit more than non-organic. I buy whole grain bread and I think that costs more too.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:02 AM
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75. In CT I can get milk at CVS for $3.00 and bread at Stop And Shop is about $2.50
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 08:04 AM by Jennicut
I hate buying milk at the grocery stores as it is always so high ($4.00 or more). Clark2008, the prices are usually much higher in the Northeast than Tennesssee and the south. I'm surprised Alabama was so high. Being from New York, Guliani is way off. New York is even higher than Connecticut prices. What bubble has he been living in? Or I forgot, Republicans don't belittle themselves by knowing the lifestyles of the little folk. Jerk.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:29 AM
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80. How come no one asked Bush this in 2000? He would have guessed 25 cents or fifty bucks
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:32 AM
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81. Only place around here I can milk & bread for close to that is WalMart --
and it requires giving up a small piece of my soul in the process...

What a dick.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:54 PM
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85. ya think any of the dems are more in touch?
:eyes:

None of the candidates have seen a checkout line. They all richy rich.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:01 PM
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88. Edwards is..
and he's not even my fave candidate.
This is one of his issues, though, so I'm pretty sure he's more informed than most.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:05 PM
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89. I'm sure that Edwards is not out shopping for the cheapest milk
That being said, Edwards has ran a great campaign so far. I did his anti-poverty stick. So far, he has ran the best campaign so far. Obama has effectively stolen his thunder with his great fundraising.

My point, Only Dennis Kucinich knows what it is like to have to count change to buy milk or bread. All the others are super rich millionaires and have been for at least 20 years or more.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:21 PM
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92. YOu're probably right..
But I bet he's a lot closer to knowing than many of the others.
Eh, like any of it is really a suprise, anyway.
Really like Kucinich,hope he can get somewhere this time.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:44 PM
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93. Hopefully DK can go places with our help my friend
peace and low stress :)
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:16 PM
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90. A revelation strikes! Guess what, few if any of them live in our world.
Seriously, very few "regular" people have any clue just how different their world is. It is completely separate and the two rarely intersect. One of the reasons we have such difficulty getting our "leaders" to do what we tell them to, and why so many rich people that have good hearts are so frustratingly ineffectual in their attempts to help improve things.

Remember the astonishment 41 showed the first time he ever saw a price scanner, in 1991?!? I really think that went a long way toward his eventual defeat. People suddenly realized just how out of touch he was. Well guess what, he is not at all unusual.


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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:19 PM
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91. I guess I'm out of touch as well...
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 02:19 PM by hughee99
I do my own shopping for the most part (my wife also occasionally goes) but I don't have a very good idea of what bread and milk costs. I pick up what I need, usually 20 - 30 items, and while I know about what the total is going to be, I don't scrutinize the receipt to find what each individual item costs. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that they day this came out, ALL of the presidential hopefuls were reading a price list of basic food items to try to avoid falling into the same situation. It would surprise me quite a bit to hear that any of the presidential hopefuls are doing their own shopping, and I imagine that if any do, they'll do it only once and take a camera crew as a photo op.
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Jonathan50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:51 PM
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94. I do most of the shopping for my wife and I
And I pay a lot more attention to the prices than she does.

If I buy bacon, I always buy the two for one sale item.

Most things I buy the store brand when they have it. (Kroger in my case)

We are living on a pretty tight budget and I can easily save $25 a week by watching the prices closely.

If I bothered with coupons we could probably save significantly more.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:40 PM
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95. My wife is more like you...
A lot of people pay more attention to individual attention to prices, but some don't and the fact that someone doesn't know the exact price isn't really proof that they're "out of touch" with the people, though. When I shop, I'll look for sale items, and for stuff that traditionally goes on sale, I have a pretty good idea of what it costs (Soda, Chips, deli meats, etc...), but I can't recall ever seeing any special deals specifically on milk or bread and consequently, I don't know what the price is on that. If I would have guessed at the price of bread, I probably would have been within 1 dollar, but it still would have been a guess, I couldn't honestly say I knew.

Let's face it, the people running for president are not really "middle class" anymore even if they were at one time. They might relate to many of the problems middle class (and they might not) but that doesn't mean they personally experience them anymore. I doubt any of them are doing their own shopping, and even if they are, they're probably not going to notice if milk or bread goes up by 50 cents or a dollar. They're going to pay whatever the bill is at the register because for them personally, the food budget is not a major concern.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:04 PM
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96. I don't buy milk, but bread is $1.00 at the grocery I shop at.
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