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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:08 PM
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More GOP infighting: Meghan McCain vs. Michelle Malkin


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So Michelle Malkin successfully rounds out the trifecta of extreme female conservative pundits, following Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, who believe that I, and Republicans like me, need to shut up and get out of the party. Is this surprising? Not really, given my father’s complicated history with the extreme right of the GOP. But what confuses me is this: Malkin recently posted an item on her blog about how “drowning out opposing views is simply un-American.”

What do Malkin and the other conservative pundits hope to accomplish by arguing that people “like me” have no place within the Republican Party? And who exactly are people “like me”? Young people? Moderate people? Young female people? People with tattoos who go to biker rallies?

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However, I am consistently asked why I would want to stay in a party that has members so angry about my involvement. It’s as simple as this: I idealistically believe in the Republican Party, and I also have an emotional connection to it. But if the party continues to demand that people leave, I guarantee you that they will. If you tell people there is no place for them, they aren’t going to fight for their right to stay. They are going to rush into the open arms of the other team.

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It’s true that Democrats make being a member appealing in a much different way than the Republican Party does. The Democrats seem to have mastered inclusiveness—whereas Republicans, like a country club, seem to require a litmus test. But if people like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter think they can bully me into giving up this fight and what I am doing, they are going to be severely disappointed. And I can assure them that unless they start being realistic about the cultural and generational differences between the two sides of the party, there will not be a new generation of Republicans.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-10/my-war-with-michelle-malkin/?cid=hp:mainpromo6


Gee, thanks Meghan. Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially that last paragraph! :)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:11 PM
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1. Shocking. If this kind of thing spreads throughout the GOP ...
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 02:13 PM by Buzz Clik
... it really will be impossible to tell Republicans from Democrats.

(Meghan McCain has tattoos? EDIT: Google is my friend.

:eyes:)
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:11 PM
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2. I wouln't say we have entirely mastered inclusiveness ('tho' we're better at it!)
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:13 PM
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3. This is the best they have and she's still crap.
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 02:17 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
She doesn't know anything about the economy (she has said as much). So she parrots her father's crackpot ideas. Clash for Clunkers "mess" etc. She can't refute Glen Greenwald or speak with any intelligence on Mahr's show, so she throws up her hands and claims people are mean to her because she's a blonde woman.
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GodlyDemocrat Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:16 PM
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4. Senator McCain was the strongest candidate the Republicans could have fielded in 2008
He gave Obama a very good run, and had he not made some missteps back when the banking crisis had hit, Obama may very well have lost a very close election.

As Obama said, McCain was a worthy opponent and any three of them (Obama, Clinton, McCain) would have been better than Bush.

You might ask, what about the negative ads? How can McCain be a worthy opponent if he was using negative ads? That's part of politics. It would have been political malpractice not to have negative ads. However, there was a difference between McCain's attacks, which were stronger because they were not outlandish, and running mate Palin's attacks that were laughable because they were outlandish.

Before anybody accuses me of supporting McCain, I voted a straight Democratic ticket except for one local downballot race.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:19 PM
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7. MCAIN brought Palin upon us.
He could have chosen someone half decent, but no. He took the cynical route and thought one woman was as good as another and now we're stuck with this batshit crazy asshole on TV every other day even though she is unemployed.
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PaddyBlueEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:43 PM
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18. To be fair
McCain had Palin forced upon him, by the extreme right...Had he not picked Palin, but some one more centrist...He would have been clobbered worse than he was...
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:37 PM
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17. McCain sold out to the worst elements of the GOP
to get the nomination.

And he is not fading away gracefully, as Goldwater did. We can be pretty certain that McCain has even more skeletons in the closet than were even rumored. I have even wondered if he has been blackmailed.

Having said that, I would agree that he was the best the GOP had to offer - but that says more about how pathetic the Republicans are.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:17 PM
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5. So, how long before she pulls the plug
Edited on Tue Aug-11-09 02:23 PM by Jackpine Radical
and bolts to our side?

If she were to start moving our way, my bet is that she wouldn't really stop until she's pretty far left. I saw it happen to a lot of us in my Vietnam) generation, myself included. Started out on the right, decided the war wasn't a good idea, but once a little light started coming through, we kept on opening our eyes until we saw a whole lot more than the wrongness of the war, and didn't stop changing until the transformation to the left was complete.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:20 PM
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8. Never. Her reasons for staying with the Republicans are weak as it is.
If she were going to leave she would have done so already. She is telling the truth when she says that she has a personal connection with the Republicans.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:22 PM
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9. Personal reasons=Daddy.
He's not immortal. (Immoral, yes, but...)
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:18 PM
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6. Different flavored M&Ms.... which do you prefer?

Gimme some Meghan anyday.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:30 PM
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10. Your father’s complicated history with the extreme right of the GOP?
It's not complicated at all. He surrendered to them.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:32 PM
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11. Idiot valley girl versus warmongering bigot. Interesting "celebrity deathmatch".
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:34 PM
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12. She makes a good point, but the destiny of the GOP has long since been written in stone
The GOP's rise in the mid 90's has a lot to do with it's punditry. However, it's fall from grace has a lot to do with it's punditry, also. The punditry increased the voting block in the 90's by attracting the fringe nuts and the closet bigots. The problem with that strategy is you very quickly reach the point of diminishing returns because the fringe nuts and the closet bigots start to run off the more intelligent and reasonable people. Now the nuts are running the asylum and there's really no turning back for them because there simply is no compromise or reasoning with those people. If they take a stance closer to the middle they will alienate the nuts that they now can't survive without. Furthermore the very nature of conservationism means they CAN'T change.

So it doesn't really matter if her voice is one of reason. She'll simply be shouted down.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:35 PM
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13. Why does Malkin make faces when she talks?
Right in the middle of a sentence she will look like a kid making a face at someone.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:38 PM
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14. Eruptions of self-loathing maybe? n/t
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:41 PM
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15. This is an opportunity to start fresh!
To include Republicans that no longer have a moderate home and Democrats disgusted at the lack of support from our elected leaders. Memebers from both side, fed up with the "politics" of both parties should start a new, progressive party. Maybe thats it, the "Progressive Party."
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:41 PM
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16. This is an opportunity to start fresh!
To include Republicans that no longer have a moderate home and Democrats disgusted at the lack of support from our elected leaders. Members from both side, fed up with the "politics" of both parties should start a new, progressive party. Maybe thats it, the "Progressive Party."
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