Re: the gun nut with the 9mm in the tactical holster

I take this man's possession of a firearm and this type of holster as a threat against the President and his supporters.

His holster is a terrible model and does not secure the weapon to the users leg. Plus, most NORMAL people do not need a tactical leg holster. This guy's holster tells me that he doesn't know what he is talking about and probably only got it from a gun show.



I used this model when I was issued one for use in federal fugitive task forces.


-signed the Gun Nut who was issued firearms for work in federal investigations and law enforcement.

as a threat.

It's just stupid or paranoid. Maybe both.

when I took a second and third look, it DID look like an earpiece, with a wire behind his right ear. crazy? what is that?

It sure looks like an earpiece that a TV reporter would wear...you can see the coiled wire wire running down the back of his collar on the inside.

Clearly this guys is a moron that just wanted to look like a badass.

it was a not too subtle threat.

That is a very poor choice of holster for that environment

...could grab the weapon pretty easily and turn the gun on anyone or everyone. Just seeing a gun, for most people, pushes buttons in lots of people which is usually a bad thing. I know most cops are trained to try not to pull their weapon because it typically can turn a situation from bad to worse, really quickly.

Some dumbass with one strapped to his thigh where anyone can yank it out of the holster and do whatever is, in some ways, more frightening than the person who brought it.

Just a thought. It's been a recurring one today.

PB

You need to push the button in as you pull straight upward to remove the pistol.

I wore one in Iraq. They work well.... for a warzone.

In the waistband conceal carry holster makes more sense everywhere else.

I watched the videos full screen. This clown wore some cheap ass $19.95 tactical rig that had a retention strap and canted the gun awkardly away from his body.

What the OP Nightwatcher posted was a good tactical holster he wore while on Federal Fugitive Task Force.

in the later seasons and on Stargate Atlantis.

It would be totally about show rather than functionality, you know.

and a holster at the waist or a shoulder harness just won't do it for him.

This guy is a threat, period.

enlist or join a law enforcement agency. I wonder if he's a militia member or a militia member wannabe? This gun owner thinks this guy is a whacko!

If he wants to play soldier, he can play soldier in the sandbox.

being possibly shot at while defending our freedoms. (you know, from the bad guys that want to stop free speech and all that) :)

proclaim "Freedom isn't Free"?

mine does, and it allows such carry. i've carried in a tactical holster during certain assignments and when i worked in a tactical unit, but non-cops have the absolute right to do so in WA state, and as far as i understand it, in the state that this incident occurred.

I did not get a good look at that holster. Is it a quick release?

That gun is so f'ing insecure it makes this gun owner nervous. What a jerk! I don't know any gun owner who carries who knows what the hell they're doing who would use this holster. Hell, we'd laugh this idiot off the range. We call them tactical weenies.

doesn't vitiate his right to carry openly.

make it more overt than implied.

fortunately we have a constitution and a rule of law such that the opinion of internet armchair "experts" is not relevant. case law and the constitution is. i suggest you read the relevant case law. in no way do his words or actions constitute a "true threat" under the law, which is what has been correctly adjudicated. start with brandenberg. that's the most relevant case law.

OBVIOUSLY if he was considered a threat under the "relevant case law" which I apparently should have reviewed prior to posting (so sorry, I didn't realise this was the Harvard Law Review) he would have been arrested. I look at the picture and the sign and I see a threat. So the fuck what? I have an opinion.

;)

secret service snipers had their weapons trained on him. One wrong move and he would have dropped before anyone knew what happened.

proponents are going to cause a backlash. I really don't think they are doing they or gun owners a favor. Right now it is a good climate for gun ownership but they are going to alarm a lot of people. Even if it doesn't happen in laws it will happen with property owners who will be alarmed enough to post no weapons policies.

BTW this clown should walk around with a big "Shoot Me First" sign. That's what any criminal he encounters would do.

of people who feel the need to carry guns around.

another favorite of the illogical anti-civil rights crowd.

Nothing if not predictable. Gotta rationalize that fear and obsession.

Why would we have to hide behind the constitution?

The real scaredy-cats are the hoplophobes who choose to stick thier head in the sand.

You've got a big target on your forehead for anyone wishing to commit a crime.

(Applies to more than just guns laws; this thread just happens to be concerning a gun incident.)

bizarre that people spend a relatively large sum of money on a weapon and buy a shitty holster. Normal people would carry concealed or better not at all to a large venue.

Funny thing is belonging to a gun club I see some open carry advocates. Seems like most of them are carrying in some cheap ass holster.

If you're going to carry concealed or open invest in a good holster.

That holster he was wearing wasn't a Serpa btw, his holster had a retention strap.

This clown is a mall ninja.

it was not cheap and shitty, like bozo's rig. You are correct that man is an idiot.

Duh on me! I'll plead too damn hot to sleep last night.

....a dweeb-ass poseur like this guy will buy it. Really disturbing mind-set---particularly in the vicinity of my president.....

he had at least one mildot on his forehead. Had he even thought about drawing that gun anywhere near the president he would never hear the shot that split his grape.

:shrug:

I carry mine in a leather pocket holster. To a lot of tacticool folks thats a poor way to carry a weapon and I agree that is it not the most efficient method, but it works for me.

it doesn't mean it's a threat under the law, which is what matters here, and which was already adjudicated correctly. many citizens in my state (WA) view open carry as a threat and/or don't like it. tought shit. it's the law here, and they can be "alarmed" or "threatened" all they want, but it doesn't make the alarm "reasonable" under our state laws, or the threat a "true threat". i also carry openly as part of my job, like you did, and when i was on a tactical team, i also wore a similar leg holster to yours. so what? in my state, and apparently in the state in the instant case, same open carry is LEGAL FOR CITIZENS. whether you deem it a threat or not is irrelevant. i am sure some racists think a black man walking down the street late at night in their neighborhood is a "threat". doesn't mean it's a valid or legal threat. some people might feel threatened when angela davis says "kill the rich" (which i heard her say in a speech she gave ), doesn't mean that that "threat" rises to the level of a valid true threat under brandenburg, so it's entirely reasonable and legal.

The Secret Service either did not see it (bad) or saw it and decided he was not a threat (good, and more likely).

I wholeheartedly agree it was a dumb thing to do.

I for one am happy that the Secret Service did not take the bait. I have no doubt that this blowhard was no threat to the POTUS though he certainly put himself in grave danger. One wrong move and the snipers would have taken him out.